Patton's "dumb bastard"

Jonathan Lighter wuxxmupp2000 at GMAIL.COM
Thu Mar 24 16:22:57 UTC 2011


Ah, but it's on the back of the page and begins after the seemingly complete
and conclusive statement that, for Patton's words, "documentation is
lacking."

Nor can I find it indexed.

Tsk, tsk, typesetters of YBQ.

But seriously, the point is that documentation of Patton's words (not
someone else's)is no longer lacking.

I still haven't found my two other versions of the speech amidst the ruck
and confusion that I call my office. They have to be here somewhere, but my
guess is that the date of Gavin's published recollection will trump them.

JL

On Thu, Mar 24, 2011 at 9:56 AM, Shapiro, Fred <fred.shapiro at yale.edu>wrote:

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> I don't quite get Jon's point, since the 1943 citation is in an annotation
> to the Patton quote, i.e., if you found the Patton quote, the 1943 citation
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> Because it isn't indexed where we'd look?
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> On Wed, Mar 23, 2011 at 9:01 PM, Shapiro, Fred <fred.shapiro at yale.edu
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> > Thanks to Garson and Sam and Jon and Victor for all the great information
> > about the Patton/dumb bastard quote.  But no one seems to have noticed
> that
> > in the Yale Book of Quotations I cite the Bureau of Aeronautics Navy
> > Department News Letter, Jan. 1, 1943: "The greatest duty of a sailor / Is
> > duty from worries and cares, / Not to die for his country, / Make our
> > enemies die for theirs!"
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