paranoid

Jonathan Lighter wuxxmupp2000 at GMAIL.COM
Mon May 9 15:48:22 UTC 2011


Also of interest: who says "paranoics" anymore?

(I've never seen a reference to "the paranoics of  _Catch-22_" (i.e., the
paranoid substabtive and structural elements), but "erotics" is everywhere,
so why the hell not?

JL

On Mon, May 9, 2011 at 9:30 AM, Garson O'Toole <adsgarsonotoole at gmail.com>wrote:

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> An interesting version of the kernel of the idea appears in a footnote
> of a book by Otto Fenichel (apparently dated 1953). The remark is
> connected to Freud because Fenichel states that it can be concluded
> when reading a paper written by Freud. This fits with the intriguing
> 1967 Journal of the APA cite that Victor found.
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> 1953, "Collected papers: Volume 1" by Otto Fenichel, GB Page 11, W.W.
> Norton, New York. (Google Books snippet; Not verified on paper)
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> Freud, in his study "Certain Neurotic Mechanisms in Jealousy, Paranoia
> and  Homosexuality," (Coll. Pap., Vol. n, London, Hogarth, 1948),
> shows that even paranoiacs do not project arbitrarily, but rather by
> exaggerating minute objective signs.
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> Garson
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> On Mon, May 9, 2011 at 1:42 AM, victor steinbok <aardvark66 at gmail.com>
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> > Schwartz died in isolation in 1966, so if he did utter that line, it was
> > long before that.
> >
> > Here's one from 1967 that may send people on a wild goose chase:
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> > http://goo.gl/HbiQm
> > Journal of the APA, 1967
> > [p. 427]
> >
> >> Just as Freud pointed out that there is a kernel of truth behind even a
> >> paranoiddelusion (no connection intended!), so I submit that there are
> facts
> >> behind these strongly held opinions which we would do well to look
> into--but
> >> not in order to declare our demise.
> >
> >
> > I did trace the Kissinger attribution to three articles in
> 1977--Cincinnati
> > magazine (review of Wheeler's Lies, Damn Lies and Statistics), an article
> in
> > Newsweek (attributing the quip to an anonymous "presidential aide" who
> uses
> > it repeatedly) and Time (directly quoting Kissinger).
>  ...
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