"squeal like a girl" (UNCLASSIFIED)

[Ron butters]

My point originally was this: "panties" is not a dialect term meaning simply "underwear." In American English, it refers only to the garments worn by women. So telling a man to remove his "panties" before you rape him would implicate, coming from most rapists of the background ascribed to Dickey 's rapist, that you were demeaning him by "using him like a woman."

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On Nov 21, 2011, at 2:34 PM, "Mullins, Bill AMRDEC" <Bill.Mullins at US.ARMY.MIL> wrote:

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>> It is important to divorce one's own view of forced male-to-male anal
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>> intercourse as merely "predator-victim" apart from any gender =
>> considerations. Personally, I totally agree.
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>> However, that enlightened view is not the one that, arguably, still =
>> predominates in modern culture, and certainly is not what one would =
>> expect that a real-life character with the prejudices that one would =
>> ascribe to the rapist in the novel DELIVERANCE would have had. Indeed,
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>> "use him like a woman" is a common euphemism for male-on-male sexual =
>> intercourse, whether forced or not. The old cliche that men who prefer
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>> to be the recipient in anal intercourse are "women trapped in men's =
>> bodies" further illustrates this point.=20
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>> The behavior of men in prison further underscores the prevalence of
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>> common view of sexual intercourse between men as the "unnatural" use
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>> men as women. Passive partners are frequently referred to as "prison =
>> wives" and "bitches"; the anus is referred to as the "faggot cunt"; =
>> "wives" refer to themselves as "girls."
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>> So, the category of assaults that are "predator-victim" embraces both
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>> male-on-male and male-on-female.
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> No doubt.  This one is male-on-male.  There is no reason to ascribe
> woman-ness to Bobby during the scene; and the book doesn't do so (it's
> been so long since I've seen the movie that I can't say whether or not
> it does).
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>> On Nov 21, 2011, at 1:02 PM, Mullins, Bill AMRDEC wrote:
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>>> "Panties" appears in the book; "squeal like a pig" does not.
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>>> I don't perceive the scene as "using his victim like a woman".
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>>> nothing male-female in the assault; it is predator-victim.
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