Imitation or counterfeit? (UNCLASSIFIED)

Mullins, Bill AMRDEC Bill.Mullins at US.ARMY.MIL
Thu Oct 13 15:49:55 UTC 2011

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I thought "krab" was a semi-standard term for this sort of faked crab

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> Victor Steinbok
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> No mystery--imitation crab meat is steamed pulverized pollock with
> additional flavorings and texturizers. The process has been around for
> over 50 years and originated in Japan. But in many situations the name
> is shortened to "imitation crab", so the point is not particularly
> important.
> Imitation crab is ok, imitation haddock is not--for one thing,
> crab is not billed as crab, imitation haddock is billed as haddock.
> is a substitute, the other one is a fake. (We also now have imitation
> scallop and imitation lobster made in a manner similar to imitation
> crab--and "imitation scallop meat" would make no sense; there is also
> imitation shrimp, made by a different process--and, at least in
> the resemblance is more in shape and color than in taste or texture.
> Can't say I've actually tried any imitation shrimp in the US, except
> a Buddhist restaurant, where they were made completely differently.)
>      VS-)
> On 10/13/2011 1:34 AM, Joel S. Berson wrote:
> > At 10/13/2011 12:06 AM, Victor Steinbok wrote:
> >> The problem with hairy crabs is that there is outright fraud (as in
> >> other cases), so "imitation" is not quite right--"imitation crab"
is not
> >> fraudulently presented crab. But "counterfeit", to me, has an
> >> quality to it, so that does not seem quite right either. It's the
> >> issue as someone serving dogfish in place of haddock
> > There is "imitation crab *meat*", where the meat is from some other
> > sea creature (I won't guess).  A past and perhaps still present
> > scandal.  There, and also for dogfish replacing haddock, I think
> > "imitation" (imitation crab, imitation haddock) is OK.
> >
> > Joel
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