firm believer that

Jonathan Lighter wuxxmupp2000 at GMAIL.COM
Sun Sep 18 00:48:15 UTC 2011

It sounds fine to me, though I see your point. I think it would be hard to
dispute the grammaticality on any basis.

(Not that it mightn't be tried.)


On Sat, Sep 17, 2011 at 8:37 PM, Benjamin Barrett <gogaku at>wrote:

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> A non-native speaker of English asks me whether the following is
> grammatical:
> "I'm a firm believer that anyone can have a breakthrough right in her own
> backyard."
> It's from an essay of Oprah in the current issue of O Magazine.
> It took me about five reads before I spotted anything possibly amiss, but
> "a firm believer that…" definitely appears wrong now that I see it.
> I think this must come from a cross of "I'm a firm believer in the idea
> that…" and  "I firmly believe that…"
> Is that correct?
> Benjamin Barrett
> Seattle, WA
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