firm believer that

victor steinbok aardvark66 at GMAIL.COM
Sun Sep 18 01:41:21 UTC 2011

Maybe it's an aberration, but the latest example would not work for me--I'd
need a "who", not a "that". And "believer that pigs can fly" does sound more
odd to me than the original example, although not as odd as "that loves"


On Sat, Sep 17, 2011 at 9:35 PM, Benjamin Barrett <gogaku at>wrote:

> I appreciate all the quick responses. Must be a slow Saturday night around
> the globe, not just here in Seattle :)
> "that pigs can fly" is the object of the verb "believe."
> Ordinarily, you would expect "believer that" to be used in a sentence like
> "I'm a believer that loves to imagine things."
> "I'm a believer that pigs can fly" seems odd keeping that in mind.
> I think this has to be chalked up to idiomatic usage.
> BB

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