mistress

Jonathan Lighter wuxxmupp2000 at GMAIL.COM
Thu Apr 12 15:03:34 UTC 2012


A "kept woman" indeed.  Even that was so unspeakable that my grandmother
also abbreviated it to "K.W."

JL


On Thu, Apr 12, 2012 at 10:02 AM, Laurence Horn <laurence.horn at yale.edu>wrote:

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> And for our grandmothers (and sometimes their [grown] children),
> mistresses typically were "kept".  Or they could be "kept women".  And
> where the…gentleman? (sugar daddy? naah) kept his mistress was their "love
> nest", a term dear to the hearts of tabloid headline writers.  Ah, those
> were the days!
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> LH
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> On Apr 12, 2012, at 9:03 AM, Jonathan Lighter wrote:
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> > I agree with Amy. That's how my grandmother used the word.
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> > JL
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> > On Thu, Apr 12, 2012 at 8:25 AM, Amy West <medievalist at w-sts.com> wrote:
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> >> On 4/12/12 12:00 AM, Automatic digest processor wrote:
> >>> Date:    Wed, 11 Apr 2012 02:31:43 -0400
> >>> From:    "Douglas G. Wilson"<douglas at NB.NET>
> >>> Subject: Re: mistress
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> >>> On 4/11/2012 1:25 AM, Victor Steinbok wrote:
> >>>>> ....
> >>>>> So my question is 1) is it true that the term "mistress" applies only
> >>>>> to a non-marital partner of a/married/  man?
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> >>>
> >>> I don't believe so. I suppose one can discuss at length whether the
> >>> right word in a given case/society is "[de jure or de facto] wife",
> >> My mother has applied the term to my unmarried uncle's (her brother)
> >> girlfriend. My mother did so knowing that it's a marked term and in
> >> order to mark her disapproval of their remaining unmarried yet
> cohabiting.
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> >> So, in that one speaker's ideolect/lexicon, no: he does not have to be
> >> married.
> >>
> >> Granted, this is limited anecdotal evidence.
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