Anatolia and Indo-European

Herb Stahlke hfwstahlke at GMAIL.COM
Sat Aug 25 02:51:38 UTC 2012

IIRC, Gamkrelidze and Ivanov argued on comparative linguistic grounds
for an eastern Anatolian origin, near the headwaters of the Tigris and
Euphrates rivers.  And they didn't push the date as far back as
Renfrew.  Their homeland arguments are independent of their
controversial glottalic hypothesis.


On Fri, Aug 24, 2012 at 1:29 PM, Joel S. Berson <Berson at> wrote:
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> The article says:
> "Linguists believe that the first speakers of the mother tongue,
> known as proto-Indo-European, were chariot-driving pastoralists who
> burst out of their homeland on the steppes above the Black Sea about
> 4,000 years ago and conquered Europe and Asia. A rival theory holds
> that, to the contrary, the first Indo-European speakers were
> peaceable farmers in Anatolia, now Turkey, about 9,000 years ago, who
> disseminated their language by the hoe, not the sword."
> So the Anatolians "beat their swords into plowshares" (Isaiah 2:4;
> see also Micah 4:3 and ... Joel 3:10) and went forth, speaking as they went.
> Joel
> At 8/24/2012 01:07 PM, Joel S. Berson wrote:
>>"Family Tree of [Indo-European] Languages Has Roots in Anatolia,
>>Biologists Say", by Nicholas Wade.
>>NYTimes, today (Aug. 24), A8 (N.E. Edition).
>>(The illustration's legend begins with an unfortunate sentence: "A
>>new study suggests that the sprawling Indo-European family of
>>languages originated in Anatolia, or modern-day Turkey."  Surely the
>>I-E family did not originate in modern-day Turkey.)
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