Hot Dog / Hamburger Articles

Dan Goncharoff thegonch at GMAIL.COM
Sun Feb 26 22:30:26 UTC 2012


Of course, a "Krapfen" is also known as a Kennedy...I mean, a Berliner.
DanG



On Fri, Feb 24, 2012 at 3:54 PM, Laurence Horn <laurence.horn at yale.edu> wrote:
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> Very nice.  Not being a subscriber to the NHR, I'd have missed this local coverage (although I did see the YAM piece a while back).  The jelly doughnut bit was of interest to me--I'd never heard of a "Gefullte Krapfen", which is a great concept:  "gefullte" as in gefilte fish (with the Yiddish unrounding as in "shtik") and "Krapfen" as in the wonderful fried sugar-dusted square hole-less donut I remember from the streetcorners of Paris in 1963, where it were called a "krapfen" (with a French accent).  The kind I remember were not gefullte with anything, other than more krapfen.
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> On Feb 24, 2012, at 3:34 PM, Shapiro, Fred wrote:
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>> I should add that Ben Zimmer is also credited for his work on "hot dog."
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>> Fred Shapiro
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>> Subject: Hot Dog / Hamburger Articles
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>> A few months ago I wrote in my Yale Alumni Magazine column about the origins of the "hamburger" and the "hot dog":
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>> http://www.yalealumnimagazine.com/issues/2011_11/arts_quotations.html
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>> Today the New Haven Register finally picked up on the story:
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>> http://nhregister.com/articles/2012/02/23/opinion/doc4f46f62a6f659843199590.txt
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>> In these articles, Barry Popik is credited with much of the research on "hamburger" and "hot dog."  It will be interesting to see how New Haveners react to Barry's disproof of the claim of local haunt Louis' Lunch to have invented the hamburger (sandwich).
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>> Fred Shapiro
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