shuckin' and jivin'

Jonathan Lighter wuxxmupp2000 at GMAIL.COM
Fri Oct 26 12:40:13 UTC 2012

My reaction was the same but I decided to keep my mouth shut. (Recall the
claim that Joe Biden was using "code" when he said "malarky.")

I don't care for "unpacking" expressions either. It sounds as if what
you're "unpacking" has a sharply defined, substantive, recognized, and
indisputably objective existence that you're an idiot if you don't accept.

Even "deconstructing" them is less misleading, for sounding more abstract.


On Fri, Oct 26, 2012 at 12:04 AM, Wilson Gray <hwgray at> wrote:

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> On Thu, Oct 25, 2012 at 12:46 PM, Ben Zimmer
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> > racially coded
> What, exactly, is Waldman trying to say? Or is she merely betng erudite?
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