Obama's sidiolect put down by a white yet again

Jonathan Lighter wuxxmupp2000 at GMAIL.COM
Mon Sep 3 21:04:36 UTC 2012


Wow! I never guessed Sarah Palin was black!

Live and learn!

JL

On Mon, Sep 3, 2012 at 4:32 PM, Dan Goncharoff <thegonch at gmail.com> wrote:

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> Do you mean to say that EVERY white Californian you have ever spoken to in
> your life has begun to drop his 'g's in your presence??
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> Most white Californians?
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> Some white Californians?
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> A few white Californians, but you remember them more strongly?
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> One white Californian?
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> Just wonderin'...
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> DanG
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> On Mon, Sep 3, 2012 at 4:22 PM, Wilson Gray <hwgray at gmail.com> wrote:
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> > In the NYT Mag, Martin Leibovich writes:
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> > "Obama does his best to stir the old magic -
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> > _droppin' his g's_
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> > =85"
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> > Is it really the case that even so-called "liberal" white folk think
> > that Obama - even after he has "chosen" to define himself as "black"
> > and not as "mixed" - is some kind of phony because, under pressure, he
> > loses control of his pswaydo-white persona - unlike General Colin
> > Powell, a soldier far more accustomed to handling pressure - and
> > allows the level of his enunciation to "degenerate" into that of his
> > ordinary and usual boojie speech-pattern?
> >
> > OTOH, have I been naive to assume that white Californians, for
> > instance. who use "g-drop" in their conversations with me are speaking
> > normally, when, in fact, they're condescendingly talking down to me in
> > an effort to make a nigger feel that he's accepted?
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> > Shee-lt! Dass coal, yawl!
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> > -Wilson
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> > All say, "How hard it is that we have to die!"---a strange complaint
> > to come from the mouths of people who have had to live.
> > -Mark Twain
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