Obama's sidiolect put down by a white yet again

[Jonathan Lighter]

An independent fact-checker notes that it's "Ashleigh,"

JL

On Tue, Sep 4, 2012 at 9:54 AM, Jonathan Lighter <wuxxmupp2000 at gmail.com>wrote:

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> > our kids=97look to political figures for a model as to how adults sound.
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> It's actually almost the opposite.
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> But what's the Karen Hughes connection?
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> And did you know that Congressman Ryan loves AC/DC and Zeppelin and is
> really into outdoor sports and grabs fish with his bare hands?  His wife
> does it too! He rarely wears an off-putting jacket or tie! His zingers are
> funny!  Even alleged "Obama shill" Ashley Banfield said breathlessly that
> Ryan has "fabulous hair."  Yay, Veepdude!
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> JL
> On Mon, Sep 3, 2012 at 9:18 PM, Ben Zimmer <bgzimmer at babel.ling.upenn.edu
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> > On Mon, Sep 3, 2012 at 7:16 PM, Wilson Gray wrote:
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> > > On Mon, Sep 3, 2012 at 5:04 PM, Jonathan Lighter wrote:
> > > > Wow! I never guessed Sarah Palin was black!
> > >
> > > She's probably not. Of course, youneverknow.
> > >
> > > But the point would be that, in her case, "g-drop" isn't said by even
> > > the most left-wing, "socialist" political pundit to be just some
> > > linguistic bullshit that she sometime fakes in those desparate moments
> > > when politics requires her to make herself *appear* to be of the
> > > now-disenfranchised, white masses and to obscure the fact that she's
> > > really of the enfranchised-since-George-Washington elite.
> >
> > From the conservative end of the pundit spectrum, here's Peggy Noonan
> > in an Oct. '08 opinion piece for the WSJ, "Palin's Failin'":
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> > http://online.wsj.com/article/SB122419210832542317.html
> > More than ever on the campaign trail, the candidates are dropping
> > their G's. Hardworkin' families are strainin' and tryin'a get ahead.
> > It's not only Sarah Palin but Mr. McCain, too, occasionally Mr. Obama,
> > and, of course, George W. Bush when he darts out like the bird in a
> > cuckoo clock to tell us we are in crisis. All of the candidates say
> > "mom and dad": "our moms and dads who are struggling." This is Mr.
> > Bush's former communications adviser Karen Hughes's contribution to
> > our democratic life, that you cannot speak like an adult in politics
> > now, that's too austere and detached, snobby. No one can say mothers
> > and fathers, it's all now the faux down-home, patronizing=97and
> > infantilizing=97moms and dads. Do politicians ever remember that in a
> > nation obsessed with politics, our children=97sorry, our kids=97look to
> > political figures for a model as to how adults sound?
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> > Discussed by Mr. Verb at the time:
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> http://mr-verb.blogspot.com/2008/10/peggy-noonan-on-political-speech-and-=
> g.html
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> > And plenty more in the Language Log archives on tactical g-dropping by
> > a variety of politicians (including Palin):
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> > http://languagelog.ldc.upenn.edu/nll/?p=3D3193
> > + links therein
> >
> > --bgz
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