"finance" as verb and noun

Tom Zurinskas truespel at HOTMAIL.COM
Fri Dec 13 23:18:58 UTC 2013


> I don't think the societal variation exists for the word "finance".
> You fih.NAENS a car.
> I work in FIE-naens
 
Phonetically I would say a ~ts is at the end of these words
~finnants
~fienants
Just like "prints" and "prince".  Phonetically both are ~prints

Tom Zurinskas, Conn 20 yrs, Tenn 3, NJ 33, now Fl 9.
See how English spelling links to sounds at http://justpaste.it/ayk


 
 



 
> Date: Fri, 13 Dec 2013 10:36:11 -0500
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> I don't think the societal variation exists for the word "finance".
> 
> You fih.NAENS a car.
> I work in FIE-naens.
> 
> There may be some confusion caused by corporate names. It was Household
> fih.NAENS, but the word was neither a verb or a noun, but an adjective
> ("finance corporation").
> 
> DanG
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> On Fri, Dec 13, 2013 at 9:58 AM, Laurence Horn <laurence.horn at yale.edu>wrote:
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> > On Dec 13, 2013, at 8:03 AM, W Brewer wrote:
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> > > Finance:  I would still argue for a sociolectal variation, with the
> > > citation forms being:
> > > FIE-naens (L-based speech) vs. fih.NAENS (H-based).
> >
> > I wonder if there's any evidence for this.  It reminds me of the claim
> > supported by most of my students that /vAz/ as in "pa's" is H (or for $300
> > and up vases) while /ve:s/ as in "face" is L (for $10 and less vases); the
> > only question, supposedly, is the cut-off point.
> >
> > LH
> >
> > > Then the rhythm rule
> > > would apply to the underlying fih.NAENS to yield HIGH FIE.naens COSTS.
> > But
> > > that's just me. And anyway my intuition gets crappier the more I think
> > > about it.
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