Earliest Known Occurrence of the Term "Hot Dog" Pushed Back to, 1886, (Corrected Citation)

[Dan Goncharoff]

In my opinion, it would never occur to most people to worry about the
difference.

On Wednesday, February 6, 2013, Jonathan Lighter wrote:

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>               to, 1886, (Corrected Citation)
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> Careless usage? Or semantic survival?
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> 1986 Kristen R. Yount _Women and Men Coal Miners_ (Ph.d. diss., U. of
> Colorado Dept. of Sociology) 284: Like a guy would take in coffee and, to
> play a trick on him, they'd put  those little vienna sausages in his
> coffee? So when he'd go to pour him a cup, the [laugh] hot dog would get
> stuck in it, you know? And you'd be laughing.
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> It would never occur to me to call a "little vienna sausage" a "hot dog,"
> esp. if I'd just used the word "sausages."
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> JL
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> On Thu, Jan 24, 2013 at 10:09 AM, Laurence Horn <laurence.horn at yale.edu<javascript:;>
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> > On Jan 24, 2013, at 9:12 AM, Amy West wrote:
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> > > On 1/24/13 12:00 AM, Automatic digest processor wrote:
> > >>> Can a food dish using rye bread (and perhaps in preference to rolls)
> > >>> >and horseradish really originate in Tennessee rather than New York
> > City?
> > >>> >(Wondered only half seriously.)
> > >>> >
> > >>> >Joel
> > >> Inspired by this discussion I tried out a hot dog (well, actually hot
> > sausage) on (marble) rye bread with horseradish, all of which I had on
> > hand, along with a bit of sauerkraut, which wasn't explicitly excluded in
> > the 19th century discussion. Not bad at all. (Mercifully, Hillshire Farms
> > does not divulge whether their product contains any bung; what you don't
> > know can't revolt you.)
> > >>
> > >> LH
> > >>
> > >>
> > > I have to admit that I have the same question as Joel. Well, there was
> a
> > > large influx of Germans into the US pre-Civil War due to the failed
> > > Republican movement in the German states, and a large number of them
> > > fought in the Union forces during the Civil War. . .I suppose there
> > > could be some migration to TN.
> > >
> > > And Herr Prof. Dr. Horn, for your experimental archaeology, I think you
> > > need to use what we call Vienna sausages in your experiment.
> > >
> > I was just allowing for inflation.
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> > LH
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