To/in press/print

[Joel S. Berson]

At 1/14/2013 12:09 PM, Laurence Horn wrote:
>On Jan 14, 2013, at 11:47 AM, Joel S. Berson wrote:
>
> > Doesn't a book "go to press" *before* it "is in print"?  And I find
> > it a bit hard to say a book "is in press"
>
>As far as I know, this is the standard term for a book at the point
>when it's in the publisher's hands (after the galleys have been
>submitted in final form) and it hasn't yet appeared in print.  It is
>so cited in bibliographies, e.g.
>
>Hall, Joan Houston et al., eds.  In press.  Dictionary of American
>Regional English, Vol. VI. Madison: University of Wisconsin Press.

Yes, "in press" is standard.  All I meant was *I* wouldn't *speak*
it.  (I don't often speak bibliographical citations.)   I would speak
"the book is at the press".  A professional in the publishing
business would presumably say "the book is in press".

In any case, "in press" and "in print" are two different times, which
is part of what both I and (I believe) Larry are saying.

Joel


>Once it's in print, then of course it's cited by year of
>appearance.  As I mentioned, this is an aspectual classification:
>"in press" is closer to appearance than "forthcoming" or "to appear".
>
>LH
>
> > or "goes to
> > print".  Perhaps "is in the press" (meaning not yet published, but my
> > preference is "at the press".  And "goes to print" I think I would
> > only use in contrast to going somewhere else, such as "to electrons".
> >
> > Joel
> >
> > At 1/13/2013 11:07 PM, Wilson Gray wrote:
> >
> >> On Sun, Jan 13, 2013 at 8:28 PM, [not] Laurence Horn
> >> <laurence.horn at yale.edu> wrote:
> >> >> I always thought newspapers went to press, but books went to print. Am
> >> >> I mistaken?
> >>
> >> Damfino. I've always made a distinction between going "to press," and
> >> being "in print" as relevant to any publication, without ever
> >> considering "going to print" at all. But that doesn't make me right.
> >>
> >> --
> >> -Wilson
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