Retronym: computer website

[Dan Goncharoff]

I don't need more convincing evidence. I am already convinced.

So is Wikipedia:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Macintosh
The *Macintosh* (/
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Help:IPA_for_English>ˈ<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Help:IPA_for_English#Key>
m <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Help:IPA_for_English#Key>æ<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Help:IPA_for_English#Key>
k <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Help:IPA_for_English#Key>ɨ<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Help:IPA_for_English#Key>
n <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Help:IPA_for_English#Key>t<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Help:IPA_for_English#Key>
ɒ <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Help:IPA_for_English#Key>ʃ<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Help:IPA_for_English#Key>
/ <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Help:IPA_for_English>
*mak-in-tosh*<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Pronunciation_respelling_key>
),[1] <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Macintosh#cite_note-1> marketed as *Mac
*, is a line of personal
computers<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Personal_computer> (PCs)
designed, developed, and marketed by Apple
Inc.<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apple_Inc.>

In the business world, we talk about Apple's share of the PC market, which
would be zero if Apple doesn't make PCs:
http://www.forbes.com/sites/timworstall/2013/04/18/apples-mac-took-45-of-the-profits-in-the-pc-market/
Apple's Mac Took 45% Of The Profits In The PC Market

What evidence would actually convince you? Figure that out, and look for
it, and you will probably find it.

DanG


On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 4:01 PM, Benjamin Barrett <gogaku at ix.netcom.com>wrote:

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> On Jul 23, 2013, at 11:16 AM, Dan Goncharoff <thegonch at GMAIL.COM> wrote:
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> > On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 1:47 PM, Benjamin Barrett =
> <gogaku at ix.netcom.com>wrote:
> >=20
> >>=20
> >> Seattle, WA
> >=20
> >=20
> > I think you are right and you are wrong.
> >=20
> > Apple itself calls a Mac a Mac and would never call itself a PC. It =
> uses
> > the term PC for all the Wintel boxes when making comparisons:
> >=20
> > =
> http://store.apple.com/us/question/answers/mac/how-difficult-is-it-to-swit=
> ch-from-pc-to-mac/Q7XTPJ2D47F297YY9
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> > Much of the rest of the world, however, uses PC to refer to all =
> desktop
> > machines, including those made by Apple:
> >=20
> > http://www.pcmag.com/category2/0,2806,2355085,00.asp
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> > " Slimmer and faster, the Apple iMac 21.5-inch (Late 2012) is the =
> desktop
> > PC to buy if you're looking to avoid the whole touch-screen =
> conundrum."
>
>
> Thank you for this response.
>
> Given the name of their magazine, PC Magazine has a reason for wanting =
> to use "PC" for Macs, just as Apple has a reason not to.
>
> Generally, I feel more comfortable referring to a Mac as a personal =
> computer than a PC, but even "personal computer" makes me feel a little =
> uncomfortable. (And that was the case before I switched to a Mac about =
> five years ago.)
>
> Is there more convincing evidence that much of the rest of the world =
> does not feel uncomfortable referring to Macs as PCs?
>
> Benamin Barrett
> Seattle, WA
>
> Learn Ainu! https://sites.google.com/site/aynuitak1/videos=
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