immersive

[Jonathan Lighter]

But "engulfing" isn't used in the "absorbing" sense.

JL

On Sun, Mar 17, 2013 at 6:51 PM, Joel S. Berson <Berson at att.net> wrote:

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> At 3/17/2013 06:38 PM, Jonathan Lighter wrote:
> >"Engrossing" is good.
>
> But too solid.  "Engulfing/ed" suggests a watery end.
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> >JL
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> >On Sun, Mar 17, 2013 at 11:59 AM, Joel S. Berson <Berson at att.net> wrote:
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> > > At 3/17/2013 10:14 AM, Dan Goncharoff wrote:
> > > >...
> > > >I still disagree with your description of the recent use of immersive
> as
> > > >meaning "riveting".
> > >
> > > For a definition of this sense of "immersive", I would look to the
> > > "being swallowied up" notion, as in "engulfing" (which has similar
> senses).
> > >
> > > Joel
> > >
> > > >I read as a style of movie making that focuses on
> > > >intimate details. You see that in the movie review you linked to, as
> well
> > > >as in the many uses of the word with respect to Zero Dark Thirty.
> > > >
> > > >I did find an older usage in a blog post that corresponds to your
> > > >description, but I don't think that is a common usage:
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> http://forums.philosophyforums.com/threads/list-of-strange-and-immersive-movies-20751.html
> > > >Movies with scenes that raise shivers up your spine, thought provoking
> > > >films, complex plots, amazing direction, anything you feel is an
> immersive
> > > >experience.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >DanG
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >On Sun, Mar 17, 2013 at 9:54 AM, Jonathan Lighter
> > > ><wuxxmupp2000 at gmail.com>wrote:
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> > > > > The technical sense presumably came first, but here it means
> > > "thoroughly
> > > > > absorbing." Anything more would be distracting and gratuitous.
> > > > >
> > > > > Try this for size:
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> http://www.moviemail.com/blog/cinema-reviews/1009-Elena-immersive-filmmaking-from-the-director-of-The-Return/
> > > > > <
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> http://www.moviemail.com/blog/cinema-reviews/1009-Elena-immersive-filmmaking-from-the-director-of-The-Return/
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Come to think of it, the word may have started its comeback long
> ago in
> > > > > connection with "full-immersion" language teaching.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > JL
> > > > >
> > > > > On Sun, Mar 17, 2013 at 9:42 AM, Dan Goncharoff <
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> > > > > wrote:
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> > > > > > On Sun, Mar 17, 2013 at 9:21 AM, Jonathan Lighter <
> > > > > wuxxmupp2000 at gmail.com
> > > > > > >wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > immersive
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I have seen the word defined in many places, like this:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > adjective
> > > > > > noting or pertaining to digital technology or images that deeply
> > > involve
> > > > > > one's senses and may create an altered mental state:
> immersivemedia;
> > > > > > immersive 3-D environments.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > *http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/immersive*
> > > > > > *
> > > > > > *
> > > > > > This is very different from your definition, and I think it
> conforms
> > > > > better
> > > > > > to its use.
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> > > > > > DanG
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