"walk-away money"

[Joel S. Berson]

Not the same meaning as any of those proposed for "walk-away money",
though?  The "around" is much more literal, for one thing.

Joel

At 11/23/2013 09:51 PM, Ben Zimmer wrote:
>There are also echoes of "walking-around money," in OED from 1927,
>with bracketed "walk-around money" from 1917. Bonnie supplied both
>cites:
>
>http://listserv.linguistlist.org/cgi-bin/wa?A2=ind1204A&L=ADS-L&P=R12282&I=-3
>
>
>On Sat, Nov 23, 2013 at 9:04 PM, Joel S. Berson wrote:
> >
> > The bottom line is that none of the two or three senses supposed for
> > "walk-away", n. attrib., is in the OED.  The phrase "walk-away money"
> > perhaps deserves its own additional entry.
> >
> > Dan Goncharoff wrote:
> > >I see two meanings in active use. Which one, to you, is transparent?
> > >
> > >I see it refer to money you take to walk away; I also see it as money you
> > >leave on the table -- you walk away from -- in a sales context.
> >
> > I see I forgot to give the quotation I had encountered, thinking it
> > was so transparent!  Forty workers at a metal manufacturing firm
> > purchased a number of Massachusetts lottery tickets, and one paid off
> > $1 million.  They will "take home" between $4,000 and $20,000,
> > depending on their varying contributions.  One of the winners said:
> >
> > "Nobody gets walk-off money.  But we got a lot of nice Christmases
> > coming up now."
> >
> > This I think is Dan's first meaning -- the money is not enough to
> > retire (from the metal-working job) on.  "If I were offered that
> > little money to retire, I would walk away from the table."
> >
> > At 11/23/2013 02:51 PM, Galen Buttitta wrote:
> > >I see it in the sense of *Who Wants to Be a Millionaire?* when Regis would
> > >give a contestant the option to walk away with the money.
> >
> > That's Dan's first meaning, and (as I say) I think also my example.
> >
> > >On Sat, Nov 23, 2013 at 12:43 PM, Victor Steinbok
> <aardvark66 at gmail.com>wrote:
> > >
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> > > > I usually see the first one, but not the second. The first is sometimes
> > > > used to describe a settlement in a nuisance suit or an amount promised
> > > > to be either paid or refunded in case a proposed merger or acquisition
> > > > falls apart. E.g., T-Mobile got guaranteed cash infusion upfront from
> > > > the attempted merger with AT&T, but AT&T got some walk-away money when
> > > > the regulators killed the merger.
> > > >
> > > > The second sense DG proposes sounds to me like "acceptable losses".
> > > > Given this perfectly adequate terminology, I can't imagine frequent use
> > > > of the alternative.
> >
> > I'm with Victor about Dan's second sense.  I can see the phrase used
> > verbally -- "I walked away from it" -- but not as a
> > noun-attributive.  (Dan didn't indicate whether the walker-away was
> > the buyer or the seller, but presumably it can be either -- the
> > amount could be too high for the buyer or too low for the seller.
> >
> > Joel
> >
> > > >
> > > >      VS-)
> > > >
> > > > On 11/23/2013 1:22 PM, Dan Goncharoff wrote:
> > > > > I see two meanings in active use. Which one, to you, is transparent?
> > > > >
> > > > > I see it refer to money you take to walk away; I also see
> it as money you
> > > > > leave on the table -- you walk away from -- in a sales context.
> > > > >
> > > > > DanG
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > On Sat, Nov 23, 2013 at 10:50 AM, Joel S. Berson
> <Berson at att.net> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >> "Walk-away money" -- transparent in meaning, but I don't see
> > > > >> "walk-away" (presumably an attributive?) in this sense in the
> > > > >> OED.  It's not included in "walk-away  n." under "walk, v."
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Presumably akin to "walk-off" (as in baseball), which has been
> > > > >> discussed recently.  Looking in the OED, I don't see the baseball
> > > > >> sense (can't remember whether that's been discussed).
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Googling Web and Books for "walk-away money", I see only this before
> > > > 2001:
> > > > >> [PDF]  (026-037)PMM Employees 9/25/00 11:20 AM Page 26
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > >
> > >https://tice.agroparistech.fr/coursenligne/courses/SOCIOLOGIEETMA
> NAGEME/document/mergers%20and%20acquisition/Peopleprobleminmergers2000McKinsey.pdf?cidReq=SOCIOLOGIEETMANAGEME
> > > > >> The most important factor to consider when you are trying to retain
> > > > >> and motivate people is how much "walk-away" money they
> receive from the
> > > > >> merger.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> I have not tried to find "walk-away" in the same sense but not with
> > > > >> "money".  There is the usual problem of hyphen = space.
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