"Even his name means wanker."

[Jonathan Lighter]

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JL


On Thu, Aug 14, 2014 at 12:10 PM, Laurence Horn <laurence.horn at yale.edu>
wrote:

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> On Aug 14, 2014, at 11:09 AM, Jonathan Lighter wrote:
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> > The book is no longer in front of me (don't know why), but "beauteous
> > niggard" may not be filthy enough to mention.
> >=20
> > Indeed, it was Heraclitus (even his name reeks of porn)
>
> Yeah, and that was after he shortened it to get past the censors.
>
> LH
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> > who said, "You
> > can't read  Wanker's fourth sonnet the same way once."
> >=20
> > I stand corrected.
> >=20
> >=20
> > JL
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> > On Thu, Aug 14, 2014 at 10:49 AM, Laurence Horn =
> <laurence.horn at yale.edu>
> > wrote:
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> >> On Aug 14, 2014, at 10:35 AM, Jonathan Lighter wrote:
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> >>> You know who. Think about it. Oxford educator Pauline Kiernan spells =
> =3D
> >> it out
> >>> again and again in her hilarious _Filthy Shakespeare_ (Quercus, =
> 2005).
> >>> =3D20
> >>> But wait... The dust jacket calls this Four-X-rated treatment of the =
> =3D
> >> bard
> >>> "deeply insightful."  So it isn't hilarious after all! It's true! =3D
> >> (Maybe
> >>> both? Naaaa. But postmodernwise you can't tell what's real and =
> what's =3D
> >> a
> >>> riotous put-on. If you think you can, perhaps you're already =3D
> >> obsolete.)
> >>> =3D20
> >>> As for Kiernan, you be the judge. In any event, you'll never read =3D
> >> Sonnet IV
> >>> the same way again.
> >>> =3D20
> >>> JL
> >>=20
> >> Referring, I gather, to the references to spending.  Point taken =
> (unless =3D
> >> we never read it the same way again in the first place).  But then =
> again =3D
> >> it was already pretty challenging (especially in class) to deal with =
> =3D
> >> line 5, where the poet addresses his narcissist lover as "beauteous =3D=
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> >> niggard".
> >>=20
> >> LH
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