[Ads-l] foment

Dan Goncharoff thegonch at GMAIL.COM
Mon Dec 1 16:38:52 UTC 2014


A quick Google search shows a handful of recent uses not related to the
Royal Navy visit, but all from Asian sources.

DanG

On Mon, Dec 1, 2014 at 11:12 AM, Laurence Horn <laurence.horn at yale.edu>
wrote:

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> Well, OED foment, v. 4a is
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> 'To promote the growth, development, effect, or spread of (something =
> material or physical)'
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> and 4b is=20
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> 'To cherish, cultivate, foster; to stimulate, encourage, instigate (a =
> sentiment, belief, pursuit, course of conduct, etc.). esp. in a bad =
> sense'
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> neither of which is marked as obsolete/archaic.  So the standard current =
> ('esp. in a bad sense') use is a narrowing/pejoration, and Yahoo! News =
> is just keeping the earlier broader practice of Milton, Pope, Swift, et =
> al. alive.
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> LH=20
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> P.S.  Then there's the now archaic reflexive use, as in...
> 1680 T. Otway. Orphan.  To think Of woman were enough to taint my =
> Brains, Till they foment to madness!
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> On Dec 1, 2014, at 10:29 AM, Jonathan Lighter wrote:
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> > Surely not "cement"?
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> > JL
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> >> At 11/30/2014 08:01 PM, Jonathan Lighter wrote:
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> >>> Like, you know, 'encourage in a good way'?
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> >>> Yahoo! News:
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> >>> "Cuba, UK seek to foment ties with visit of British Royal Navy =
> ship."
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> >> Perhaps an error for "ferment"?  A plan to bring back grog to the
> >> Royal Navy, and in a gesture of comradeship introduce it to the Cuban
> >> seamen?
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