[Ads-l] Dim sum stress

Benjamin Barrett gogaku at IX.NETCOM.COM
Wed Dec 31 04:58:18 UTC 2014


Thank you all for the kind responses.

I've been looking at videos on YouTube to look at this issue further. 
Stress on the second syllable:

1. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4rbl_i3VFIk, about 2:47 in.
2. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=olGNcFoFrX4, 0:14 and 0:34 (two 
different speakers)
3. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XZIH6NroQxk, 0:20

Both syllables:
1. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N4saj_U_OYA, about 0:27
2. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9pEAPDMHx9A, 0:20
3. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bN1PvROBPUA, 0:57, very clear

First syllable:
1. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RFWI6NRUy_c, 0:10
2: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ke5whWOOjC4, 6:19

I have vague recollections at being terrified of stress questions in 
elementary school because I so often got them wrong, but hopefully this 
selection provides all three patterns even if they are completely 
miscategorized. BB
> David Daniel <mailto:david at COARSECOURSES.COM>
> December 30, 2014 at 5:23 PM
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> Poster:       David Daniel<david at COARSECOURSES.COM>
> Subject:      Re: Dim sum stress
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> Hmmm. I've always heard it/said it "dim SUM". This covers L.A., San
> Francisco, London, and (maybe) Chicago (not 100% sure about Chicago). My
> daughter, who lives in New York, says New York says "DIM sum".
> DAD
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> Poster:       Barbara Need<bhneed at GMAIL.COM>
> Subject:      Re: Dim sum stress
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> I have also always heard this with the primary stress on the first
> syllable.
>
> Barbara
>
> Etna, NY
>
>> Poster:       Benjamin Barrett<gogaku at IX.NETCOM.COM>
>> Subject:      Dim sum stress
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>> The Oxford Dictionary site gives "dim sum" with
>>
>> - the accent on the second syllable in the British/World English
>> dictionary
>>
> (http://www.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/english/dim-sum?q=dim+sum&sear
> chDictCode=all
>> )
>> and
>> - a secondary accent on the first syllable and primary accent on the
>> second in the American dictionary
>> (http://www.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/american_english/dim-
>> sum).
>>
>> The primary stress on the second syllable matches the accent
>> provided on
>> Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dim_sum) but I have always
>> know
>> this to be pronounced with the primary accent on the first syllable.
>>
>> What's more, in the following video, produced by the British Council,
>> two people are in London's Chinatown and they both pronounce it as
>> "DIM
>> sum" at about 1:18 in:
>>
>> http://learnenglish.britishcouncil.org/pt-br/node/2560
>>
>> Is second-syllable stress a common way to pronounce this term?
>>
>

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