No more the "awe" sound in USA

Joel S. Berson Berson at ATT.NET
Sun Feb 2 22:26:53 UTC 2014


I see the Hallmark channel today is featuring -- and refeaturing, and
refeaturing, all day -- the "Kitten Bowl".  How will I be able to
react vocally, if I am deprived of "aw"?  Or emotionally, if there is
no longer "awe"?

Joel

At 2/2/2014 07:38 AM, Tom Zurinskas wrote:
>Awe-dropping is pernicious.  I've even heard Dawn Zimmer call
>herself Don.  The moderator of a group on MSNBC started off saying
>Dawn ~Daun then when guests started saying "Don" ~Daan he ended up
>doing it too.
>It's pernicious.  It's psychological.   It's almost as though some
>folks think the "awe" sound is not a nice sound and refuse to say
>it.  It's beneath them. I think it's mainly with the ladies,
>although that's contrary to their adoption of creaky voice sound,
>which to me is a fake fad and not a nice sound.
>Is it right to want to save the awe sound.  Some say no because it's
>like going against nature and natural progression.  But is creaky
>voice a natural progression.  Is it not right to care.  Or is it not
>right to scoff at those who care.   There is no benefit I can
>foresee for awe-dropping.  I'd certainly like to participate in any
>way to save the "awe" phoneme.  But how?  By not overtly correcting
>the mispronunciation, which nobody likes to do, is it condoning it;
>Like the stupid fad of cigarette smoking in the past.
>Tom Zurinskas, Conn 20 yrs, Tenn 3, NJ 33, now Fl 9.
>See how English spelling links to sounds at http://justpaste.it/ayk
>
>
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> > On Feb 1, 2014, at 6:08 PM, Benjamin Barrett wrote:
> >
> > > It would be interesting to see if people without the cot/caught
> merger adopt the merger pronunciation for "Seahawks" (and "hawk" in
> general) as a result of the Superbowl.
> > >
> > > Benjamin Barrett
> > > Formerly of Seattle, WA
> >
> > They won't get to me.  'Hawks they are and 'Hawks they will
> remain, win or lose.
> >
> > But you can't go by me; I'll never even merge my Maries, marries,
> and merries.
> >
> > LH
> >
> > >
> > > Learn Ainu! https://sites.google.com/site/aynuitak1/videos
> > >
> > > On Feb 1, 2014, at 3:01 PM, Neal Whitman <nwhitman at AMERITECH.NET> wrote:
> > >
> > >> I was wondering how long it'd be before I read a message here
> about the Seahocks and awe-dropping.
> > >>
> > >> Neal
> > >>
> > >>> On Feb 1, 2014, at 1:27 PM, Tom Zurinskas <truespel at HOTMAIL.COM> wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>> Is the "awe" phoneme too far gone to save.
> > >>> =20
> > >>> The Super bowl team name is "Seahawks".  How many times do we
> here "hocks" =
> > >>> instead of "hawks".
> > >>> =20
> > >>> Her name is "Dawn Zimmer" regarding the NJ scandals.  How
> many times do we =
> > >>> here "Don" vs "Dawn".
> > >
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