"old wise tale"/"old wives tell"

Paul Johnston paul.johnston at WMICH.EDU
Tue Feb 18 05:39:01 UTC 2014


Sounds very White, and Upper, rather than Lower Southern (and some Lower Northern and Western) to me.  Goes with "pull" for "pool" too.

Paul
On Feb 17, 2014, at 11:47 PM, Wilson Gray <hwgray at GMAIL.COM> wrote:

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> On Mon, Feb 17, 2014 at 11:43 AM, Herb Stahlke <hfwstahlke at gmail.com> wrote:
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>> "Old wives tell" sounds like a Southern variety that laxes tense vowels
>> before /l/.
>>
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> Is there one? In BE, "tell" for "tale," like "hill" for "heel" is peculiar
> to a few random hypercorrectors and not (stereo)typical at all of the rest
> of us, among whom "tale" for "tell" and "tale" and "heel" for "hill" and
> "heel" is, so to speak, the "standard," as it were.
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