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Victor Steinbok aardvark66 at GMAIL.COM
Wed Jan 8 02:27:55 UTC 2014

I've noticed conflicting usage in the last decade or so. One is indeed
along GT's outline. But there's a particular "underground" sense where a
dive bar would be fashionable among a particular kind of clientele. It's
hard to describe, but it cannot be truly upscale, must be fairly well
priced, serve particular kinds of drinks, including retro cocktails and
exude a certain kind of "dive" atmosphere. Merely calling it
"fashionable" is not enough. But it does appear to reflect a common GenY


On 1/7/2014 4:07 AM, Benjamin Barrett wrote:
> Good question. It might be a retronym to distinguish it from dive restaurants. says "A seedy bar, nightclub, etc."
> On Jan 7, 2014, at 12:49 AM, John Doe <hwgray at GMAIL.COM> wrote:
>> On Tue, Jan 7, 2014 at 1:54 AM, Benjamin Barrett <gogaku at>wrote:
>>> dive bar
>> In what way does a "dive *bar*" distinguish itself from an ordinary "dive"?

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