Linguistic boundaries [was: A novel notion of "balance"]

Laurence Horn laurence.horn at YALE.EDU
Mon Jan 13 20:46:54 UTC 2014

On Jan 13, 2014, at 1:07 PM, Dan Goncharoff wrote:

> If you care:
> Actor in orange cap is George Wendt, born in Chicago.

Him I know from Cheers.
> Actor in blue cap is Robert Smigel, former SNL writer.

Him I just mostly know by name, from the video shorts he put together for SNL, but I see he was one of the Da Bears sketch guys; I hadn't remembered that.  But they both do a nice Chicaglish.  As did Dennis ("Andy Sipowicz") Franz of NYPD Blue, who unfortunately was supposed to be from NYC.

> On Mon, Jan 13, 2014 at 12:54 PM, Laurence Horn <laurence.horn at>wrote:
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>> Subject:      Re: Linguistic boundaries [was: A novel notion of "balance"]
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>> On Jan 13, 2014, at 12:12 PM, Alice Faber wrote:
>>> On 1/13/14 12:03 PM, Laurence Horn wrote:
>>>> On Jan 13, 2014, at 11:38 AM, Paul Johnston wrote:
>>>>> How do the Red Sox/Yankees divisions correlate with variables such as
>> whether the vowel in cart (rhotic or not) is front or back, and whether cot
>> is rounded or unrounded?
>>>> I'd guess in one direction:  Boston side of isogloss --> Red Sox fan,
>> but not vice versa.  As I say, just a guess.
>>> Also, consider the eye-dialect spelling SAWX, even (maybe especially) by
>>> speakers with a NY-style COT/CAUGHT contrast.
>> I remember one of the ESPN SportsCenter anchors (Kenny Mayne, maybe?  He's
>> the one who does "'Skansin" in a nice facsimile of a Wisconsin accent)
>> distinguishing the Sawx and the Sacks, the latter being the Chicago White
>> Sox of course.  There's a much (over-)played commercial for State Farm and
>> their "Discount Double Check" airing currently, with two guys doing
>> exaggerated but still recognizable Chicago/Northern Cities fronted vowels
>> (a spin-off of the old "Da Bears" bit on SNL).  In fact it's now spelled
>> "Discount Daaa-ble Check" at the end of the commercial:
>> .
>> Very dialect-aware, in its way.
>> LH
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