Changing fiction for dramatic effect

[Joel S. Berson]

At 1/30/2014 04:37 PM, Dan Goncharoff wrote:
>Well, no.
>
>It actually says:
>
>"Some names, places and incidents are fictitious
>and have been changed for dramatic effect."
>
>Should the "and" be an "or"? Absolutely.
>
>But, some names, places and incidents are fictitious, and some names,
>places and incidents have been changed for dramatic effect.
>
>Just not the same ones.

Exactly my point.  The "and" means the same ones.  The disclaimer doesn't say
"and *some*", nor does it say "and others"
[presumably the factual names, places and incidents]
"have been changed for dramatic effect."

What interested me is the implied reading that some *fictional*
events needed dramatic improvement.  They could have written them as
sufficiently improved dramatically in the first place.  Or at the
very least improved them at some time between the first
screenwriters' product and the release without needing a disclaimer
to the viewer.

Joel


>DanG
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>On Thu, Jan 30, 2014 at 2:01 PM, Joel S. Berson <Berson at att.net> wrote:
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> > Nonsense.  The disclaimer says that *fictitious* incidents have been
> > changed for dramatic effect.  It does not say "some events 'from his
> > real life story' have been changed for dramatic effect."
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> > Joel
> >
> > At 1/30/2014 01:10 PM, Dan Goncharoff wrote:
> > >I watched the first episode. The series is not based on fiction. It is the
> > >life of Ian Fleming.
> > >
> > >In that context, " "Some names, places and incidents" presented are
> > >" fictitious and have been changed" from his real life story "for dramatic
> > >effect" in the 4-part mini-series presenting decades of a man's life.
> > >
> > >DanG
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> > >
> > >On Wed, Jan 29, 2014 at 10:53 PM, Joel S. Berson <Berson at att.net> wrote:
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> > > > Subject:      Changing fiction for dramatic effect
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> > > > The disclaimer for the 4-part mini-series "Fleming: The Man Who Would
> > > > be Bond", beginning tonight on BBC America:  "Some names, places and
> > > > incidents are fictitious and have been changed for dramatic
> > > > effect."  (Presumably by the rewrite editor.  Perhaps Fleming needed
> > > > to try harder.)
> > > >
> > > > Joel
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