Tom Zurinskas truespel at HOTMAIL.COM
Tue Jun 10 16:20:54 UTC 2014

To "Romanize" Cyrillic you need truespel phonetics to spell it so English readers can say it.  Why convert it to a notation that does not get the pronunciation right?Truespel conversion is after the tilde (~) 
> Pe'tro, Pa'vlo, Dmi'tro, Lev'ko, Slav'ko, Hrits'ko, Yur'ko (stressed second syllable)
~Petrroe, ~Paavlloe, ~Dmeetrroe, ~Levkkoe~Slaavkkoe~Hreetskkoe~Yerkkoe

> Da'nilo, Ki'rilo, Mi'khailo  (stressed second syllable(
Assuming "r" is not flapped ~r.  If flapped use ~qAssuming ending "o" is long o ~oe, (as in go)Assuming "a" is ~aa (as in ah)Assuming "i" is ~ee (as in tree)Assuming "ur" is as in ~er (as in her) and not "long u" ~ue with ~qAssuming "kh" is flapped "k" ~xAssuming "ai" is long a ~ae (as in "hail") not long i (as in Taipei)
Tom Zurinskas, Conn 20 yrs, Tenn 3, NJ 33, now Fl 9.
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> Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2014 21:44:47 +0800
> From: brewerwa at GMAIL.COM
> Subject: Re: Petro?
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> Progress report on <<Petro Oleksiyovych Poroshenko>>. CNN reporters are still
> saying [PEH-troh] vs. Ukrainian [pih-TRO]. (IPA gets trashed here, of
> course.). Getting IPA information on Ukrainian has proven a real challenge.
> Below, I romanize Cyrillic spellings to accommodate the Western reader.
> Ukrainian website transcriptions are really awkward.
> S'S (disyllabic idionyms, stress on ultima):
>  Pe'tro, Pa'vlo, Dmi'tro, Lev'ko, Slav'ko, Hrits'ko, Yur'ko
> S'SS (trisyllabic idionyms, stress on penult):
> Da'nilo, Ki'rilo, Mi'khailo
> Ukrainian masculine names ending in <-o> are declined in the second
> declension.
> E.g. Da'nilo (nominative), Da'nila (probably genitive), Da'nilu
> (probably dative),
> Da'nilom (instrumental??).
>   Saw today a CNN report on a Ukrainian cyberbot, that fooled interrogators
> into thinking it was a 13-year-old human, by its consistent use of
> indirection & deflection; very reminiscent of the responses I get from
> <L imwitty>.
> Hmm... Witty R Us.
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