The Proper Pronunciation of Certiorari

Tom Zurinskas truespel at HOTMAIL.COM
Tue Jun 24 17:29:57 UTC 2014

Sorry David, your email came out garbled.  We need a better forum mechanism.  I searched on google and found Proboards forum.  I hope this copies OK below.  I haven't tried it yet.  Probably paid for by ads, but we're used to that.
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> Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2014 13:17:35 -0400
> From: dbarnhart at HIGHLANDS.COM
> Subject: Re: The Proper Pronunciation of Certiorari
> ---------------------- Information from the mail header -----------------------
> Sender:       American Dialect Society <ADS-L at LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
> Poster:       David Barnhart <dbarnhart at HIGHLANDS.COM>
> Subject:      Re: The Proper Pronunciation of Certiorari
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> I hope this is not too garbled...
> _certiorari_ ...
> sh=C4=97r=E2=80=99=E2=80=99sh=C4=93 =C9=99 r=C4=81r=E2=80=99=C4=93  OR =
> -=C4=AB			World Book Dictionary
> s=C3=BBr=E2=80=99=E2=80=99sh=C4=93 =C9=99 r=C3=A2r=E2=80=99=C4=93  OR =
> -r=C3=A4=E2=80=99r=C4=93			American Heritage College D.
> s=C9=99r=E2=80=9Dsh(=C4=93)=C9=99 rer=E2=80=99=C4=93	OR =
> -r=C3=A4r=E2=80=99=C4=93  OR -ra=E2=80=99r=C4=93	Merriam-Webster =
> Collegiate D.
> s=C9=84r=E2=80=9Dsh=C4=93 =C9=99 rer=E2=80=99=C4=93					=
> Webster=E2=80=99s New World D.
> ser=E2=80=9Dsh(=C4=93)=C9=99 r=C3=A4r=E2=80=99=C4=93  OR =
> -re(=C9=99)=E2=80=99r=C4=AB		New Oxford American D.
> I have standardized the stress marks and adjusted the syllabication in =
> order to reduce confusion.
> Regards,
> David
> Barnhart at
> -----Original Message-----
> From: American Dialect Society [mailto:ADS-L at LISTSERV.UGA.EDU] On Behalf =
> Of Baker, John
> Sent: Tuesday, June 24, 2014 11:59 AM
> Subject: The Proper Pronunciation of Certiorari
> ---------------------- Information from the mail header =
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> Sender:       American Dialect Society <ADS-L at LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
> Poster:       "Baker, John" <JBAKER at STRADLEY.COM>
> Subject:      The Proper Pronunciation of Certiorari
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>                 "Certiorari" refers to the Supreme Court's writ of =
> certiora=3D ri, a key step in the consideration of the large majority of =
> cases that the=3D  court considers.  It is central to Supreme Court =
> practice and part of the =3D vocabulary of every American lawyer.  But =
> how should the word be pronounced=3D ?  It is Law Latin and was never =
> used in classical periods, and there is ge=3D neral agreement that an =
> anglicized pronunciation is appropriate, but the ag=3D reement stops =
> there.
>                 It turns out that the Supreme Court Justices themselves =
> hav=3D e no agreement on this point.  A recent article in The Green Bag, =
> which cal=3D ls itself "an entertaining journal of law," counts a =
> variety of pronunciati=3D ons used by Justices in formal settings, where =
> they presumably had time to =3D think about the pronunciation they =
> wanted to use:
> ser-shee-or-RAHR-ee
> sert-zee-or-RAHR-ee
> ser-shee-or-RARE-eye
> ser-shee-or-RARE-ee
> ser-shee-or-ARR-eye
> ser-shee-ARR-ee
>                 On its face, this might seem to suggest that common =
> pronunc=3D iations are superfluous, if a word's pronunciation can be as =
> variable as sp=3D ellings were five centuries ago.  But there is another =
> approach taken by tw=3D o Justices, who always pronounce it "cert" =
> (i.e., "sert") in informal conte=3D xts and "review" in more formal =
> settings.  Apparently they, at least, feel =3D discomfort with a word =
> that does not have a standard pronunciation.
>                 The article is at =
> les_duane.pdf.
> John Baker
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