[Ads-l] pornographic

Neal Whitman nwhitman at AMERITECH.NET
Wed Nov 5 15:04:57 UTC 2014


I, too, wondered if the meaning of "internet (sexual) pornography" 
prevented the meaning of "luridly appealing internet stuff" from 
attaching to it, and had a similar question for "child pornography" and 
"kiddie porn"--I don't think I'll ever find that referring to impossibly 
cute baby pictures, baptism pictures, pictures of kids in Halloween 
costumes, etc.

Neal

On 11/5/2014 9:43 AM, Dan Goncharoff wrote:
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> Is there a difference in the use of 'porn' to refer to 'Luridly appealing
> to a debased sensibility' and the use of the full word 'pornography'?
> On Nov 2, 2014 11:20 PM, "Benjamin Barrett" <gogaku at ix.netcom.com> wrote:
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>> Some of these variations have been discussed here before. I wonder, =
>> though, if you could have internet porn in the sense that there is =
>> reality porn. Wikipedia, social media, Google and all kinds of other =
>> internet sites put together. Would the stress pattern change? BB
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>>> On Nov 2, 2014, at 8:11 PM, Neal Whitman <nwhitman at AMERITECH.NET> =
>> wrote:
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>>> Other examples of more generalized pornography that come to mind =
>> include:
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>>> food porn: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Food_porn
>>> disaster porn:=20
>>> http://inthesetimes.com/article/5487/our_addiction_to_disaster_porn
>>> earth porn: http://earthporn.org/
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>>> A COCA search for "[nn*] porn" also turns up torture porn, reality =
>> porn,=20
>>> death porn, and (new to me) ruin porn. Of course, there's also stuff=20=
>>> like "kiddie porn" and "internet porn," in which "porn" still has its=20=
>>> more specific meaning.
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>>> Neal
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>>> On 11/2/2014 5:54 PM, Jonathan Lighter wrote:
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>>>> 'Luridly appealing to a debased sensibility.'
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>> http://www.flickfilosopher.com/2014/01/lone-survivor-review-never-get-invo=
>> lved-land-war-asia.htm
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>>>> ."..acknowledges the powerful fraternity of soldiers without being
>>>> jingoistic about their work, and one that depicts the intensity and
>>>> adrenaline of a battlefield without being pornographic about it."
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>>>> Obviously alluding to "pornography of violence," but the key word
>>>> "violence," while it is suggested, does not appear.
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>>>> JL
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