[Ads-l] pornographic

Jonathan Lighter wuxxmupp2000 at GMAIL.COM
Wed Nov 5 23:59:11 UTC 2014


Another ex. referring to the same movie:

"A practically-pornographic tribute to fearless, fallen heroes strictly for
patriots with a strong stomach for gratuitous violence"

http://baretnewswire.org/mark-wahlberg-stars-in-adaptation-of-memoir-about-ambush-of-navy-seals-in-afghanistan/


JL

On Wed, Nov 5, 2014 at 10:04 AM, Neal Whitman <nwhitman at ameritech.net>
wrote:

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> I, too, wondered if the meaning of "internet (sexual) pornography"
> prevented the meaning of "luridly appealing internet stuff" from
> attaching to it, and had a similar question for "child pornography" and
> "kiddie porn"--I don't think I'll ever find that referring to impossibly
> cute baby pictures, baptism pictures, pictures of kids in Halloween
> costumes, etc.
>
> Neal
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> On 11/5/2014 9:43 AM, Dan Goncharoff wrote:
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> > Is there a difference in the use of 'porn' to refer to 'Luridly appealing
> > to a debased sensibility' and the use of the full word 'pornography'?
> > On Nov 2, 2014 11:20 PM, "Benjamin Barrett" <gogaku at ix.netcom.com>
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> >> Some of these variations have been discussed here before. I wonder, =
> >> though, if you could have internet porn in the sense that there is =
> >> reality porn. Wikipedia, social media, Google and all kinds of other =
> >> internet sites put together. Would the stress pattern change? BB
> >>
> >>> On Nov 2, 2014, at 8:11 PM, Neal Whitman <nwhitman at AMERITECH.NET> =
> >> wrote:
> >>> =20
> >>> =20
> >>> Other examples of more generalized pornography that come to mind =
> >> include:
> >>> =20
> >>> food porn: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Food_porn
> >>> disaster porn:=20
> >>> http://inthesetimes.com/article/5487/our_addiction_to_disaster_porn
> >>> earth porn: http://earthporn.org/
> >>> =20
> >>> A COCA search for "[nn*] porn" also turns up torture porn, reality =
> >> porn,=20
> >>> death porn, and (new to me) ruin porn. Of course, there's also
> stuff=20=
> >>> like "kiddie porn" and "internet porn," in which "porn" still has
> its=20=
> >>> more specific meaning.
> >>> =20
> >>> Neal
> >>> =20
> >>> On 11/2/2014 5:54 PM, Jonathan Lighter wrote:
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> >>>> =20
> >>>> =20
> >>>> 'Luridly appealing to a debased sensibility.'
> >>>> =20
> >>>> =
> >>
> http://www.flickfilosopher.com/2014/01/lone-survivor-review-never-get-invo=
> >> lved-land-war-asia.htm
> >>>> l
> >>>> =20
> >>>> ."..acknowledges the powerful fraternity of soldiers without being
> >>>> jingoistic about their work, and one that depicts the intensity and
> >>>> adrenaline of a battlefield without being pornographic about it."
> >>>> =20
> >>>> Obviously alluding to "pornography of violence," but the key word
> >>>> "violence," while it is suggested, does not appear.
> >>>> =20
> >>>> JL
> >>>> =20
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