[Ads-l] pornographic

Jonathan Lighter wuxxmupp2000 at GMAIL.COM
Thu Nov 6 17:02:23 UTC 2014


One more ex. (same movie). Here "pornography" is alleged to be a
quasi-neutral term.

"This is, however, the movie Berg wanted to make. It is war pornography.
I’m not passing judgment on it....But, when you consider the advisory
involvement of the armed forces, this is, despite the brutality, a
recruitment piece."

http://screencrush.com/lone-survivor-review/?trackback=tsmclip

JL

On Wed, Nov 5, 2014 at 6:59 PM, Jonathan Lighter <wuxxmupp2000 at gmail.com>
wrote:

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> Another ex. referring to the same movie:
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> "A practically-pornographic tribute to fearless, fallen heroes strictly for
> patriots with a strong stomach for gratuitous violence"
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> http://baretnewswire.org/mark-wahlberg-stars-in-adaptation-of-memoir-about-ambush-of-navy-seals-in-afghanistan/
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> JL
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> On Wed, Nov 5, 2014 at 10:04 AM, Neal Whitman <nwhitman at ameritech.net>
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> > I, too, wondered if the meaning of "internet (sexual) pornography"
> > prevented the meaning of "luridly appealing internet stuff" from
> > attaching to it, and had a similar question for "child pornography" and
> > "kiddie porn"--I don't think I'll ever find that referring to impossibly
> > cute baby pictures, baptism pictures, pictures of kids in Halloween
> > costumes, etc.
> >
> > Neal
> >
> > On 11/5/2014 9:43 AM, Dan Goncharoff wrote:
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> > > Is there a difference in the use of 'porn' to refer to 'Luridly
> appealing
> > > to a debased sensibility' and the use of the full word 'pornography'?
> > > On Nov 2, 2014 11:20 PM, "Benjamin Barrett" <gogaku at ix.netcom.com>
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> > >> Some of these variations have been discussed here before. I wonder, =
> > >> though, if you could have internet porn in the sense that there is =
> > >> reality porn. Wikipedia, social media, Google and all kinds of other =
> > >> internet sites put together. Would the stress pattern change? BB
> > >>
> > >>> On Nov 2, 2014, at 8:11 PM, Neal Whitman <nwhitman at AMERITECH.NET> =
> > >> wrote:
> > >>> =20
> > >>> =20
> > >>> Other examples of more generalized pornography that come to mind =
> > >> include:
> > >>> =20
> > >>> food porn: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Food_porn
> > >>> disaster porn:=20
> > >>> http://inthesetimes.com/article/5487/our_addiction_to_disaster_porn
> > >>> earth porn: http://earthporn.org/
> > >>> =20
> > >>> A COCA search for "[nn*] porn" also turns up torture porn, reality =
> > >> porn,=20
> > >>> death porn, and (new to me) ruin porn. Of course, there's also
> > stuff=20=
> > >>> like "kiddie porn" and "internet porn," in which "porn" still has
> > its=20=
> > >>> more specific meaning.
> > >>> =20
> > >>> Neal
> > >>> =20
> > >>> On 11/2/2014 5:54 PM, Jonathan Lighter wrote:
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> > >>>> =20
> > >>>> =20
> > >>>> 'Luridly appealing to a debased sensibility.'
> > >>>> =20
> > >>>> =
> > >>
> >
> http://www.flickfilosopher.com/2014/01/lone-survivor-review-never-get-invo=
> > >> lved-land-war-asia.htm
> > >>>> l
> > >>>> =20
> > >>>> ."..acknowledges the powerful fraternity of soldiers without being
> > >>>> jingoistic about their work, and one that depicts the intensity and
> > >>>> adrenaline of a battlefield without being pornographic about it."
> > >>>> =20
> > >>>> Obviously alluding to "pornography of violence," but the key word
> > >>>> "violence," while it is suggested, does not appear.
> > >>>> =20
> > >>>> JL
> > >>>> =20
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