[Ads-l] Horse creature

Dan Goncharoff thegonch at GMAIL.COM
Thu Nov 6 17:10:47 UTC 2014


I believe people who know horses (I don't) make distinctions that the
layman doesn't. For example a "pony" breed is not a "horse" breed, yet both
are horses. I don't know the history of the usage of these terms, but I
would research in this area for the use of "horse creature" to refer to all
horses, including horses not called horses...

DanG

On Thu, Nov 6, 2014 at 11:19 AM, Margaret Lee <
0000006730deb3bf-dmarc-request at listserv.uga.edu> wrote:

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> There's also puppy dog.
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> >There might be an interim step at wildebeest?
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> >Poster:       Laurence Horn <laurence.horn at YALE.EDU>
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> >If you like tuna fish, horse beast is clearly the next step.
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> >LH
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> >On Nov 6, 2014, at 8:49 AM, Michael Quinion wrote:
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> >> An intriguing question has arrived at World Wide Words from a
> genealogist
> >> who has found examples of the term "horse creature" in old American
> court
> >> records and newspapers. She asked why the redundancy?
> >>
> >> I've found numerous examples of the term, often in sale announcements,
> and
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> >> also of "horse beast", which was used in the US and also in the UK (the
> >> first example in the OED is dated 1573). DARE has "horse beast" and also
> >> "horse critter" but not "horse creature". There are 16th-century British
> >> references to "rother beast", where a rother was an ox or bullock, but
> no
> >> other farm animal seems to have one of these words added to its name.
> >>
> >> Can anyone suggest to my reader why a farmer or auctioneer might refer
> >> specifically to a "horse creature" or "horse beast"? I'm at a total
> loss!
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> >> Michael Quinion
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