[Ads-l] Was "Language Nerd" Really Adjectived?

Randy Alexander strangeguitars at GMAIL.COM
Thu Nov 6 17:45:48 UTC 2014


Yeah, I don't understand Arnold's "adverbial" either.  I agree with Geoff's
predicative analysis, but I think (like Arnold) that this is clearly a N+N
modifier, as there are other examples that would fit:

go all diva
*she's very diva

go all soldier
*he's very soldier

Randy

On Fri, Nov 7, 2014 at 12:21 AM, Baker, John <JBAKER at stradley.com> wrote:

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> The most recent XKCD, http://www.xkcd.com/1443/ has the following text,
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> portedly from a conversation between its cartoon characters:  "I don't
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>  to go all language nerd on you, but I just legit adverbed "legit," verbed
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> "adverb," and adjectived "language nerd."  (For extra jollies, not germane
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> to this email, the cartoon also includes as a tooltip:  "Not to go all
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> ence fragment on you.")
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> Now, I have no problems with the adverbing and verbing, but I don't feel
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> mfortable with the claim that "language nerd" was adjectived.  It seems to
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> me that "to go" is a copulative verb and "language nerd" is a predicate
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> n.  Geoff Pullum on Language Log, http://languagelog.ldc.upenn.edu/nll/?p=
> =3D15576, seems to be inclined toward this approach, while concluding
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> it may be consistent with adjectiving, since he writes:  "So perhaps it
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> ld have been safer for a real language nerd to say (I just)
> predicative-com=
> plemented 'language nerd'. But for the most part what you get in the go
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>  ____ on you is adjective-headed phrases, so (I just) adjectived 'language
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> nerd' is arguably accurate."
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> Arnold Zwicky takes a different approach on his blog,
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> rg/2014/11/06/language-nerd/, where he writes:  "Then there's the
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> ion in go (all) X (on s.o.), where X is a nominal - here, a N + N compound
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> (language nerd, sentence fragment) - converted to an adverbial in
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> ion with the verb go."  So Arnold, although he doesn't entirely spell it
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> t, is rejecting the propositions that "to go" is copulative and that
> "langu=
> age nerd" is adjectival.
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> I'm clearly out of my depth.  What's really going on in the XKCD text?
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> John Baker
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