Slang a la the NYT

David Daniel david at COARSECOURSES.COM
Sun Oct 5 16:49:42 UTC 2014

I liked her NYT article on slang, then went on to check out the blog and
almost immediately, like in line 4, was horrified to see: "...if I lay down
on the living room floor..." WTF? World-renowned lexicographer and language
writer uses lay for lie? So I decided that whatever else she had to say was
probably tainted and I lost interest and stopped reading. Sigh.

Poster:       Ben Zimmer <bgzimmer at GMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Re: Slang a la the NYT

Also, Kory is a she. I highly recommend her blog on lexicography,
Harmless Drudgery.

I cited it when I had the opportunity to opine on matters
lexicographical for the NYT op/ed section.

On Sun, Oct 5, 2014 at 10:22 AM, Dave Wilton <dave at> wrote:
> I don't see any problem with Stamper's article. It's basically just a
> piece that highlights the problem of the recency illusion, i.e., just
> because a term is in vogue, doesn't mean it's new. I haven't checked her
> specific claims, but none of Stamper's examples seem wrong on their
> face.
> And in this case, the op-ed is written by a real lexicographer, someone
> with training and expertise in the field, not by some journalist who
> half remembers some lesson his eighth-grade English teacher taught him.
> As far as newspaper articles that address language go, this is one of
> the better ones.
> On Sun, Oct 5, 2014 at 3:52 AM, Wilson Gray <hwgray at> wrote:
>> [T]he word "dude" predates the Dude of
>> "The Big Lebowski" fame by over 100 years.
>> It does?! For real?!!!
>> Lest anyone waste his running it down to me, no, I'm not serious. I'm
>> annoyed that someone can simply pull bullshit out his ass and get it
>> published in the NYT, even when it has nothing to do with politics.
>> Youneverknow.

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