fapp and phallologocentrism

Laurence Horn laurence.horn at YALE.EDU
Fri Sep 12 01:11:55 UTC 2014


Ah yes, that admirably gender-inclusive law firm, Fapp, Diddle & Shlick. 

LH 


On Sep 11, 2014, at 9:04 PM, Jonathan Lighter wrote:

> "Diddle (oneself)" has been around forever. Why aren't they saying it more?
> 
> JL
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> On Thu, Sep 11, 2014 at 8:57 PM, ADSGarson O'Toole <
> adsgarsonotoole at gmail.com> wrote:
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>> Urban Dictionary terms: double clicking the mouse, tuning the piano,
>> finger diddle; playing the clitar, diddle the skittle, shlick, jackin'
>> the box, squeak your Pink, roughing the diamond, flick the bean,
>> flicking the bean, jill off, jilling off, playing DJ Hero, drowning
>> the bunny (reference to rabbit style vibrator)
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>> Undefined keyword terms: ragging the ruby, excersing ones right to
>> privacy, rubbing budhas tummy
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>> Spelling of terms is taken from Urban Dictionary.
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>> Appearance in Urban Dictionary indicates a minimum guaranteed
>> prevalence for slang terms, i.e., frequency of use: at least once.
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>> On Thu, Sep 11, 2014 at 4:21 PM, Spanbock/Svoboda-Spanbock
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>>> For no particularly good reason, I always presumed that 'jack' was =
>>> somehow short for 'ejaculate' and 'jerk' referenced a particularity of =
>>> the movement, neither being really applicable to female masturbation.
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>>> It's funny - my children regard these emails as high-minded and nerdy. I
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>>> Kate
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>>> On Sep 11, 2014, at 5:15 AM, Jonathan Lighter wrote:
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>>>> To "jill off" went nowhere.
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>>>> Female masturbation is widely known as "masturbation."
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>>>> Are we sure that "jack off" is used only of males?  Why should it be?
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>>>> What about "jerk off"? That certainly seems appropriate to many =
>>> cultural
>>>> theorists of either sex.
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>>>> "Whack off" "Wank"?
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>>>> Unlike men, women apparently wish to retain their dignity in these =
>>> matters.
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>>>> JL
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>>>> On Thu, Sep 11, 2014 at 7:47 AM, Amy West <medievalist at w-sts.com> =
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>>>>> This is not something I've followed up with any research, yet. (And I
>>>>> regret opening a rather prurient line of thinking.)
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>>>>> But yesterday it was striking me that "fapp," being onomatopoeic in
>>>>> origin, originates from referring to *male* masturbation. "Jack off" =
>>> is
>>>>> similar. And then the feminist critical theory buried under detritus =
>>> in
>>>>> my mind started bubbling up and pointed out the exclusion of female
>>>>> masturbation from those terms and the corollary of denial of female
>>>>> sexuality, etc., etc. Not that I really want to know, but likely =
>>> there
>>>>> are terms for female masturbation out there (and probably easily
>>>>> findable on Urban Dictionary, if I really want to follow this line of
>>>>> thinking), but I'm betting that they're not onomatopoeic.
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>>>>> (So, I think I am once again pointing out the obvious. My work here =
>>> is
>>>>> done.)
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