[Ads-l] Is this what it seems?

Joel Berson berson at ATT.NET
Sat Aug 8 16:12:49 UTC 2015


I am not and never have been a Southerner, but I too hear it as normal (certainly understandable), could easily say it (although probably not preferentially), and might even write it casually.


Joel

      From: Joe Salmons <jsalmons at WISC.EDU>
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Yeah, I took it as an ‘it-existential’. I’m a Southerner and  have some of those constructions but a limited set. (I don’t know what the parameters actually are.) This sentence sounds utterly normal to me … I’d say it for sure and might write it in an informal context.


> On Aug 8, 2015, at 7:43 AM, Jonathan Lighter <wuxxmupp2000 at GMAIL.COM> wrote:
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> I take it to be "it's" substituting for "there's" - heard daily in
> Southern-origin speech.
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> JL
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> On Sat, Aug 8, 2015 at 8:34 AM, Neal Whitman <nwhitman at ameritech.net> wrote:
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>> I take it to be a copula-less cleft construction: "It's only women
>> [that/who are] in the shop."
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>> Neal
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>> On 8/7/2015 11:01 PM, Wilson Gray wrote:
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>>> "Valentine=E2=80=99s Day is one of the few times of the year when most
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>>> customers are male. Usually,_it's_ only women in the shop..."
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>>> http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2015/08/10/learning-to-speak-lingerie
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>>> Not "... there are/there're/there is/there's only women ..."?
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>>> All say, "How hard it is that we have to die!"---a strange complaint to
>>> come from the mouths of people who have had to live.
>>> -Mark Twain
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