[Ads-l] blood in one's eye; hormonal; to "late-night angry-tweet"

George Thompson george.thompson at NYU.EDU
Mon Aug 10 00:15:20 UTC 2015


2,500 followers makes a guy the 69th most influential conservative in
America?
What would it take to make him the 68th?  He should go for it.

Still in bafflement,
GAT

On Sun, Aug 9, 2015 at 3:24 PM, Jonathan Lighter <wuxxmupp2000 at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Not that Eric Erickson, who "disinvited" Trump (as they're saying), is a
> sensitive semantic pussycat:
>
>
> http://www.macon.com/2009/05/05/704937/erick-erickson-sends-vulgar-message.html
>
>
> (To "disinvite":  OED,  "Obs.," a1641 & 1665.)
>
> JL
>
> On Sun, Aug 9, 2015 at 11:18 AM, Joel Berson <berson at att.net> wrote:
>
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> > Poster:       Joel Berson <berson at ATT.NET>
> > Subject:      Re: blood in one's eye; hormonal; to "late-night
> angry-tweet"
> >
> >
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> >
> > Comments interspersed.
> >
> >
> >
> > Joel
> >
> >
> > ________________________________
> > From: Jonathan Lighter <wuxxmupp2000 at GMAIL.COM>
> > To: ADS-L at LISTSERV.UGA.EDU=20
> > Sent: Sunday, August 9, 2015 10:24 AM
> > Subject: [ADS-L] blood in one's eye; hormonal; to "late-night
> angry-tweet"
> >
> >
> > I can't find this familiar idiom in OED, but 30 seconds of research finds
> > a=
> > n 1800 ex. in GB.
> >
> > It mean's, of course, "intent on killing; (hence) intent on victory,
> > reveng=
> > e, etc."
> >
> > For those who've been visiting the off-world colonies, Donald Trump told
> > CN=
> > N Friday that, when questioning him in the debate, Megyn Kelly "had blood
> > c=
> > oming out of her eyes, coming out of her...wherever."
> >
> >
> > JSB:=C2=A0 I'm reassured to see that Jon, or whom he's quoting, also has
> > th=
> > e pause.
> >
> > What Trump may have meant by "wherever" is now the hottest political
> topic
> > in America. It's completely overshadowing the issue of whether it's
> > presidential to fulminate a leading journalist for asking an embarrassing
> > question on TV - and calling her in tweets and retweets a "bimbo,"=C2=A0
> > th=
> > e
> > "biggest loser of the night," "astonishingly biased," and "funny to
> watch."
> >
> > Trump has also tweeted and repeated that only a "deviant" or a "sick
> > person" would interpret what he didn't say as referring to Kelly's, er,
> you
> > know.=C2=A0 He says he was thinking "ears" or "nose" but decided (wisely)
> > t=
> > o
> > move on.
> >
> > (At least it's good to know that *I'm* not "sick" or a "deviant," since
> the
> > gross menopausal interpretation did not occur to me.=C2=A0 Nor, if you
> can
> > believe them, did it occur to my wife or to my two old grad school
> buddies
> > who've spent their careers in the law. Are they putting me on?)
> >
> >
> > JSB:=C2=A0 I'm also reassured (confirmed in my self-esteemation?) that I
> > mu=
> > st be sick or deviant, since the menopausal interpretation immediately
> > occu=
> > rred to me, especially with the pause.=C2=A0 It may have also occurred to
> > t=
> > he Boston Globe, since in its quotation of Trump's "blood" utterance it
> > did=
> >  not go on from "blood coming out of her eyes" to include "coming out of
> > he=
> > r ... wherever."=C2=A0=20
> >
> >
> > JSB:=C2=A0 It clearly occurred to some on the NYTimes -- online today,
> > JONA=
> > THAN MARTIN and MAGGIE HABERMAN include the "wherever", although without
> > it=
> > s pause.=C2=A0 They are direct, uttering the M-word in their very first
> > sen=
> > tence -- "Donald J. Trump=E2=80=99s suggestion that a Fox News journalist
> > h=
> > ad questioned him forcefully at the Republican presidential debate
> because
> > =
> > she was menstruating cost him a speaking slot Saturday night at an
> > influent=
> > ial gathering of conservatives in Atlanta."=C2=A0=C2=A0 (I don't find the
> > "=
> > blood" quote in the online Times earlier than today.=C2=A0 Perhaps on
> > Satur=
> > day it was uncertain about Trump's intent, or was too afraid of
> offending.)
> >
> > JSB:=C2=A0 P.S.:=C2=A0 I don't believe Jon's wife or his two grad school
> > (m=
> > ale?) buddies.=C2=A0 I think they were trying to give him the impression
> > th=
> > at they, like he, are not "sick".=C2=A0 :-)
> >
> >
> > But the second linguistic point is Trump's assertion that "blood coming
> > out=
> >  of [one's] eyes" is a "very common expression." (He repeated it today
> > with=
> >  "...pouring..."
> >
> > News to me.=C2=A0 Is it a rare eggcorn for "blood in=C2=A0 one's eye," or
> > i=
> > s it really a "very common" eggcorn?
> >
> >
> > JSB:=C2=A0 I did take "coming out of" as equivalent to "in" (what was
> "in"
> > =
> > is so copious it's overflowing), and I suspect Donald chose "coming" to
> > par=
> > allel his later "coming out of ... wherever".
> >
> > II
> > The mediopolitical word of the weekend is "hormonal."=C2=A0 It has been
> > sai=
> > d
> > again and again that Trump meant Kelly was "hormonal" for asking him why
> he
> > has berated certain women who disagree with him as "fat pigs," "dogs,"
> and
> > "animals." (Part 2 of the question was how Trump might defend himself
> > against Clintonian charges that he is "part of the War on Women)."
> >
> > The new sense of "hormonal"=C2=A0 - 'affected by menopause; (hence) in a
> > fo=
> > ul or=20
> > aggressive mood' - isn't in OED *or* HDAS.
> >
> >
> > JSB:=C2=A0 "Hormonal" seems to be the news media's euphemism for
> > "menstrual=
> > " (meaning "bloody"; although I don't see exactly this meaning in the
> > OED).=
> > =C2=A0 And as readily interpretable as The Donald's "wherever."
> >
> > ...
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George A. Thompson
The Guy Who Still Looks Stuff Up in Books.
Author of A Documentary History of "The African Theatre", Northwestern
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