[Ads-l] Heard: "I've had dinner...

Jonathan Lighter wuxxmupp2000 at GMAIL.COM
Sun Aug 23 01:19:36 UTC 2015


The TV chattering classes - and their interlocutors - almost never say
"him"  in sentences like that .  Or "me," for that matter (they say
"myself").


JL

On Sat, Aug 22, 2015 at 6:24 PM, Wilson Gray <hwgray at gmail.com> wrote:

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> with _he_ and his wife."
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> Somewhere or other, I kinda-maybe-perhaps glanced at a suggestion that
> Nominative case may be privileged/licensed/justified/whatever the jargon is
> by the distance of the pronoun from the governing verb or preposition, so
> that, in this case, we expect
>
> with *him* and his wife,
>
> given that the pronoun occurs immediately after the preposition.
>
> OTOH,
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> The Smuggler: A Tale - Volume 1 - Page 188
> https://books.google.com/books?id=3DLBE1AAAAMAAJ
> John Banim - 1831 - =E2=80=8ERead
> Let _he_ and you have the pit open, in the garden, about eleven, to-morrow
> night" - she whispered - "So, now for it, Jane!"
> --=20
> -Wilson
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> All say, "How hard it is that we have to die!"---a strange complaint to
> come from the mouths of people who have had to live.
> -Mark Twain
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