[Ads-l] New to me: "use the whole buffalo"

Dan Goncharoff thegonch at GMAIL.COM
Sat Feb 14 02:51:20 UTC 2015


Makes me think of Fort Apache in the Bronx.

DanG
On Feb 13, 2015 8:31 PM, "Wilson Gray" <hwgray at gmail.com> wrote:

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> Heard on an L&O - CI season 3 (2003) re-run:
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> D'Onofrio's character, Det. Goren, referencing the victim, says:
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> "He had no ID, no cell phone, no watch. Punks _used the whole buffalo_."
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> This variant of the cliches of the "whole hog" / "whole [numeral] yards"
> class seems to be relatively recent.
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> The above is the oldest derived use that I can find with a date.
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> Below is the earliest literal use that I found.
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> Hawaii Pono Journal - Volume 1 - Page 131
> https://books.google.com/books?id=3DjXTxAAAAMAAJ
> 1970 - =E2=80=8ESnippet view - =E2=80=8EMore editions
> Moreover, they _used the whole buffalo_, not only the hide.
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>  I also found,
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> "'They used the whole buffalo,' so to speak,"
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> which suggests derivation. But, without any context or a date more specific
> than "21st century,"
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> Youneverknow.
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