[Ads-l] Yet Further Antedating of "Lunch"

Shapiro, Fred fred.shapiro at YALE.EDU
Tue Jan 6 12:40:57 UTC 2015


Yes, David must be correct here.  As I was drifting off to sleep last night I started to realize that the 1677 citation might be in the OED sense _lunch_ n.2 1.  I had been fooled by the presence of the word "luncheon" in the 1677 citation, not realizing that "luncheon" also had an earlier sense of a piece or hunk.

Fred Shapiro



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Yeah, but hold your horses there. This isn't lunch as in a meal or even a
snack; this is lunch as in a big piece of bread. Cf. the French translation
(assuming the French translation was correct). Like: "He carried a lunch in
his pack and was constantly eating pieces of it throughout the day." IOW, if
he had a ham hock in his pack it wouldn't be a lunch, if you see what I
mean.
DAD



Poster:       Jonathan Lighter <wuxxmupp2000 at GMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Re: Yet Further Antedating of "Lunch"
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Wow.

This looks like another example of an innocuous and presumably familiar
word that for inexplicable reasons of chance (and perhaps of writerly
"decorum") rarely appeared in print for many, many decades after its
introduction.

JL

On Mon, Jan 5, 2015 at 10:37 PM, Shapiro, Fred <fred.shapiro at yale.edu>
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> lunch (OED, n.2 2.a., 1829)
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> 1677 Guy Miege _A New Dictionary French and English_ (Early English Books
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> nline)  A LUNCH, or luncheon of bread, grosse tranche de pain.
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