[Ads-l] The new "progressive" [Was: More on "liberal"]

Dan Goncharoff thegonch at GMAIL.COM
Thu Jan 8 22:12:40 UTC 2015


The writer of the article said "he made nods to pragmatism".

The Senate leader called himself "very pragmatic".

Was this an Op/Ed or a news piece??

DanG

On Thu, Jan 8, 2015 at 5:02 PM, Joel S. Berson <Berson at att.net> wrote:

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> At 1/8/2015 04:50 PM, Dan Goncharoff wrote:
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> >Just because he called himself "Progressive", it doesn't mean there was
> >actually a "progression".
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> >I read "pragmatic" as an attempt to step back to the middle.
> >
> >DanG
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> Not when "Rosenberg underscored the importance of tackling economic
> inequality in the state, and he made *nods* to pragmatism".  Doesn't
> sound like a "step back to the middle" to me, more a step back in
> time to the original Massachusetts' notion of "commonwealth".
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> (Rosenberg didn't actually call himself a progressive; he was asked
> if he was one.  Perhaps by a Fox News reporter, preparing to throw a
> squib?)
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> Joel
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> >On Thu, Jan 8, 2015 at 4:38 PM, Joel S. Berson <Berson at att.net> wrote:
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> > > The new "progressive" is ...
> > >
> > > /beginquote/
> > >
> > > Senator Stanley C. Rosenberg, a longtime presence=20
> > > on Beacon Hill, was elected Senate president=20
> > > Wednesday, becoming the first openly gay person=20
> > > and first Jewish person to lead the chamber.
> > >
> > > A liberal Democrat from Amherst, the 65-year-old=20
> > > becomes one of three big players in Beacon Hill=20
> > > politics. He joins Speaker Robert A. DeLeo =97 who=20
> > > was reelected to his leadership post Wednesday =97=20
> > > and Governor-elect Charlie Baker, who will be sworn in Thursday.
> > > ...
> > > In his first speech as the Senate leader,=20
> > > Rosenberg underscored the importance of tackling=20
> > > economic inequality in the state, and he made=20
> > > nods to pragmatism and to extending an open hand to Baker, a
> Republican.
> > > ...
> > > Asked if he considered himself a progressive, he=20
> > > said he considered himself =93very pragmatic.=94
> > >
> > > /endquote/
> > >
> > > ... "pragmatic".
> > >
> > > Note the article's progression from "liberal" to=20
> > > "progressive" to "pragmatic".   "Communist" and=20
> > > "Socialist" are hidden around the left corner,=20
> > > perhaps far enough around to be near enough to=20
> > > the right wing to be grasped and hurled at the "pragmatics".
> > >
> > > [Boston Globe, Dec. 8, 2015, B1 & B5.]
> > >
> > > Joel
> > >
> > > At 1/2/2015 05:20 PM, Jonathan Lighter wrote:
> > >
> > > >You are correct. I noticed the irony as well. Socialists and
> Communists
> > > >described themselves as "progressives," both as a euphemism and to
> > > >distinguish themselves from supposedly smug, feckless, and gullible
> > > >"liberals."
> > > >
> > > >JL
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