[Ads-l] Zby

Jonathan Lighter wuxxmupp2000 at GMAIL.COM
Wed Jan 14 12:56:51 UTC 2015


Let us turn to Discovery Magazine's useful and garish _Ultimate Book of
Dinosaurs_ (N.Y.: Time Home Entertainment, 2014), written by Lori Stein,
whose name appears only in teeny letters inside under a long roster of
corporate execs.

(She was also the "image manager." That must be something like a spin
doctor for dinos whose "brand" needs a little polishing.)

Special advisor to the publication was the young and photogenic Dr. Joseph
Sertich, Curator of Vertebrate Paleontology at the Denver Museum of Nature
& Science, so this is no lightweight publication. Or not as lightweight as
you might have expected.

The names of the known dinosaur genera are listed, along with their
all-important pronunciations.

We learn on page 50 that the basal sauropod Zby is called "zee-bee" by its
friends. Unfortunately the stressed syllable is not indicated, though I
presume it is the final. Except in the U.S. South.

Also of linguistic interest (p.24) are "Irritator," the most annoying giant
slavering carnivorous quasi-reptile, and "Fukuisaurus," the surliest.

JL



On Tue, Jan 13, 2015 at 3:14 PM, Jonathan Lighter <wuxxmupp2000 at gmail.com>
wrote:

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> Exactly right, Jeff.  It must have been summer '86 or '87.
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> No more Newyorkasaurus?
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> What were they thinking?
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> JL
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> > On Monday, January 12, 2015 5:32 PM, Jonathan Lighter <
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> > >Actually it wasn't.  There were other -sauruses to choose from, as I
> >
> > >recall.  "Drunkasaurus" may have been one.
> >
> > Probably one of these: http://www.saurusgang.com/index.html
> >
> > They don't currently have a Newyorkasaurus, but according to their about
> > page,
> > they had hundreds of these back in the day.
> >
> > Jeff
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> > >JL
> > >
> > >On Mon, Jan 12, 2015 at 7:14 PM, Joel S. Berson <Berson at att.net> wrote:
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> > >> This can only have been a New Yorkuh magazine cartoon.
> > >>
> > >> Joel
> > >>
> > >> At 1/12/2015 10:47 AM, Jonathan Lighter wrote:
> > >>
> > >> >Atound 1987 or '88 my wife purchased an illustrated t-shirt inscribed
> > >> >"Newyorkasaurus."  It bore a cartoon of a sauropod egressing a taxi
> > while
> > >> >loaded down with fancy shopping bags.
> > >> >
> > >> >There was a printed definition too, though I can't remember much
> about
> > it.
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> >JL
> > >> >
> > >> >On Mon, Jan 12, 2015 at 8:48 AM, Joel S. Berson <Berson at att.net>
> > wrote:
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> > >> > > Random thoughts --
> > >> > >
> > >> > > Pronunciation -- I think of Zippy/Zibby.  Both he and Zby
> atlanticus
> > >> > > are pinheads.
> > >> > >
> > >> > > Dinosaur naming -- There is a new eat-in/take-out place in
> Cambridge
> > >> > > called "Bagelsaurus" (successor to a weekly pop-up in
> > >> > > Brookline).   They serve a "t-rex" breakfast sandwich.  Will they
> be
> > >> > > sued by pre-established places called "Bagels Are Us"?  Or perhaps
> > by
> > >> > > the nearby "Bagels By Us" of Arlington?
> > >> > >
> > >> > > Joel
> > >> > >
> > >> > > At 1/12/2015 07:36 AM, you wrote:
> > >> > >
> > >> > > >When I was a lad, dinos had normal and euphonious names like
> > >> Styracosaurus
> > >> > > >and Parasaurolophus.
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > >Not any more:
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > >http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zby
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > >Isn't this the first example of the initial Polish "Zb" as New
> > Latin,
> > >> and,
> > >> > > >hence, English? ("Zbigniew" doesn't count: it's still Polish.)
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > >Unusually, Wiki doesn't recommend any pronunciation. Maybe it's
> not
> > >> meant
> > >> > > >to be pronounced, rather like the asterisk in the short-lived
> > Shatner
> > >> > > >series, " * My Father Says."
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > >JL
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