[Ads-l] How do people turn clich=?UTF-8?Q?=C3=A9s_?=bottomside upward?!

ADSGarson O'Toole adsgarsonotoole at GMAIL.COM
Fri Jul 10 19:51:57 UTC 2015


Barry Popik looked at a variant group of pocket jokes involving cold weather.

Entry from January 08, 2010
"It was so cold in Washington that I saw a politician with his hands
in his own pockets"

Short link: http://bit.ly/1HT6cAF

http://www.barrypopik.com/index.php/new_york_city/entry/it_was_so_cold_in_washington_that_i_saw_a_politician_with_his_hands_in_his

On Fri, Jul 10, 2015 at 3:10 PM, ADSGarson O'Toole
<adsgarsonotoole at gmail.com> wrote:
> William Maxwell Evarts on June 24 1885; reprinted in Modern Eloquence, Volume 2
>
> [Begin excerpt]
> An eminent lawyer of our city was once detected and exposed and
> applauded for being seen standing with his hands in his own pockets
> [laughter]
> [End excerpt]
>
> Max O'Rell attributed a version of this joke to Mark Twain in 1889 as
> noted in the Yale Book of Quotations. There are some earlier versions
> before 1885, too.
>
> Garson
>
> On Fri, Jul 10, 2015 at 3:01 PM, Laurence Horn <laurence.horn at yale.edu> wrote:
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>> Poster:       Laurence Horn <laurence.horn at YALE.EDU>
>> Subject:      Re: How do people turn clich=?utf-8?Q?=C3=A9s_?=bottomside
>>               upward?!
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>>
>> Maybe the idea is that the Koch Bros. (or other corporate moneybags) are =
>> hiding in the pockets of the Justices (or other [sic] politicians) like =
>> little dolls or puppets rather than that they (Kochs) have their hands =
>> in the politicians' pockets, which I assume is the source of the =
>> original metaphor.   So when the Justices/politicians appear to speaking =
>> (at a rally or in a decision favoring the businesses), it's really the =
>> little corporate pocket-dolls that are the ventriloquists.  Now I'm =
>> getting confused.
>>
>> LH
>>
>>> On Jul 10, 2015, at 2:41 PM, Ben Zimmer <bgzimmer at GMAIL.COM> wrote:
>>>=20
>>> I had the same thought, the idea being that the Koch brothers are
>>> lining the pockets of the Justices, or at least have their hands in
>>> said pockets.
>>>=20
>>> Similar inversions (though they seem pretty rare online):
>>>=20
>>> =
>> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=3Dhttp-3A__www.opensecrets.org_=
>> news_2011_06_opensecrets-2Dblogs-2Dpolitiquizz-2D6-2D13-2D2011_&d=3DAwIBaQ=
>> &c=3D-dg2m7zWuuDZ0MUcV7Sdqw&r=3DwFp3X4Mu39hB2bf13gtz0ZpW1TsSxPIWYiZRsMFFaL=
>> Q&m=3DHu8dBhEdqaAyg3rA6MRGzRZ0VTu8BUT1orbfFuC4vwA&s=3DHcEfEnimOjyUcDe0nJSt=
>> VjSDh9dvyZ-_dg0dZG62iz0&e=3D=20
>>> "Which Industries Are in the Pockets of Both Rand and Ron Paul?"
>>>=20
>>> =
>> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=3Dhttp-3A__www.nbcsandiego.com_=
>> news_local_California-2DCourt-2DRuling-2DMedical-2DMarijuana-2DLocal-2DBan=
>> -2D206293491.html-23comments&d=3DAwIBaQ&c=3D-dg2m7zWuuDZ0MUcV7Sdqw&r=3DwFp=
>> 3X4Mu39hB2bf13gtz0ZpW1TsSxPIWYiZRsMFFaLQ&m=3DHu8dBhEdqaAyg3rA6MRGzRZ0VTu8B=
>> UT1orbfFuC4vwA&s=3D8-X6Tt1eNCDLblPZkoAySKkcZ_UXpCBqer4p1VpW22k&e=3D=20
>>> "YOU KNOW 'BIG CIGARETTE COMPANIES' ARE IN THE POCKETS OF MOST OF OUR
>>> POLITICIANS."
>>>=20
>>> =
>> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=3Dhttp-3A__hamptonroads.com_201=
>> 5_04_chesapeake-2Dcouncil-2Dvotes-2Ddown-2Dplan-2Dcut-2Dproffers&d=3DAwIBa=
>> Q&c=3D-dg2m7zWuuDZ0MUcV7Sdqw&r=3DwFp3X4Mu39hB2bf13gtz0ZpW1TsSxPIWYiZRsMFFa=
>> LQ&m=3DHu8dBhEdqaAyg3rA6MRGzRZ0VTu8BUT1orbfFuC4vwA&s=3DCDZt0VaUJMcmZXjNvPj=
>> 6eIcG1upxih9CH8tbCi2A5PA&e=3D=20
>>> "I concur with many of you that developers are in the pockets of city
>>> council members."
>>>=20
>>>=20
>>> On Fri, Jul 10, 2015 at 1:46 PM, Joel Berson wrote:
>>>>=20
>>>> Possibly the utterer is thinking of the Kochs brothers' money in the =
>> Justice's
>>>> pockets. More literal, and less metaphorically mysterious, than the =
>> Justices
>>>> being in the Koch brothers' pockets?
>>>>=20
>>>>      From: Laurence Horn <laurence.horn at YALE.EDU>
>>>> To: ADS-L at LISTSERV.UGA.EDU=3D20
>>>> Sent: Friday, July 10, 2015 1:20 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: [ADS-L] How do people turn clich=3DC3=3DA9s bottomside =
>> upward?!
>>>>=20
>>>> Nice.=3DC2=3DA0 Yup, another reversal.=3DC2=3DA0 Make room, =
>> "substitute",
>>>> "let alone", "much less", and friends...=3DC2=3DA0 (The Justices in =
>> question would
>>>> need deeper pockets than we know about if they're going to fit the =
>> Kochs in
>>>> there.)
>>>>=20
>>>>=20
>>>>> On Jul 10, 2015, at 12:30 PM, Wilson Gray <hwgray at GMAIL.COM> wrote:
>>>>>=20
>>>>> Facebookery:
>>>>>=20
>>>>> "The Koch brothers are in some of the Justices' pockets!"
>>>=20
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