[Ads-l] J. Swift qoute on reasoning "out/into"

ADSGarson O'Toole adsgarsonotoole at GMAIL.COM
Fri Jul 10 22:19:06 UTC 2015

The Quote Investigator website now has an entry on the topic of the
Jonathan Swift quotation with an acknowledgment to Stephen. Thanks!

You Cannot Reason People Out of Something They Were Not Reasoned Into

[Begin excerpt from main body and acknowledgment]
The correct version appeared in the key 1721 citation which was
identified by top researcher Stephen Goranson.

Special thanks to Stephen Goranson who located the crucial 1721 citation.
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On Mon, Jun 22, 2015 at 12:03 PM, ADSGarson O'Toole
<adsgarsonotoole at gmail.com> wrote:
> That citation looks great, Stephen. I was asked about this family of
> sayings and located pertinent citations from Fisher Ames and Lyman
> Beecher together with linkages to Jonathan Swift, Sydney Smith, and
> others. But the citations I found for Swift were too late to provide
> substantive evidence.
> Garson
> On Mon, Jun 22, 2015 at 7:49 AM, Stephen Goranson <goranson at duke.edu> wrote:
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>> Sender:       American Dialect Society <ADS-L at LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
>> Poster:       Stephen Goranson <goranson at DUKE.EDU>
>> Subject:      J. Swift qoute on reasoning "out/into"
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>> I encountered the following: "Jonathan Swift wrote, 'it is useless to attem=
>> pt to reason a man out of a thing he wasn't reasoned into.'
>> Maybe this is a rewording of his:
>> "...freethinkers...are not be reformed by arguments offered to prove the tr=
>> uth of the Christian religion, because Reasoning will never make a Man corr=
>> ect an ill Opinion, which by Reasoning he never acquired...."
>> A letter to a young gentleman, lately enter'd into holy orders. By a Person=
>>  of Quality
>> Jonathan Swift
>> 1721
>> Stephen Goranson
>> http://people.duke.edu/~goranson/
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