[Ads-l] RES: fines for saying "you guys" to mixed groups?

David Daniel dad at COARSECOURSES.COM
Mon Jun 15 00:15:15 UTC 2015


I've only ever heard men being called cunts in British English, in which it
has (or at least used to have) approximately the same impact/severity as
asshole in US English. Back in the 80's, when I was living in England, there
was a joke: What's red and dangles from a cunt? Answer: Arthur Scargill's
tie. You can see that asshole would have worked just as well (though perhaps
there is greater potential for having things dangle from a cunt), but the
Brits didn't say asshole - or even arsehole - back then; they said cunt. I
have only ever heard cunt used in US English - insultingly, that is - in
reference to women. Prick or dick for guys, cunt for women, twat for both,
though, when used to insult a man, twat has always meant more like "stupid"
or "useless" (perhaps a variation on twit?). BTAIM, going back as far as the
70's, I have always been intrigued by the reaction of total outrage from
women when calling them cunts. I have asked many women: Wait a minute. If I
call a guy a prick I'm being mildly vulgar but if I call a woman a cunt I'm
committing a beheadable offense? I never got any rational answers, which
convinced me it was an irrational issue, as most things are. Kind of like
the modern outrage surrounding "moist". I mean, half the cake-mix boxes in
the world have "moist" on them. What's the deal with that? Jeeez.
DAD
 

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Assunto: Re: fines for saying "you guys" to mixed groups?

Poster:       Jonathan Lighter <wuxxmupp2000 at GMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Re: fines for saying "you guys" to mixed groups?
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Getting back to insults, why should men be insultable as "cunts," but women
can/are never vilified as "pricks"?

It's so "taboo" (to use an overworked term) that it nobody does it. (Or do
women say it covertly, beyond the ears of the guys?)

Moreover, according to a certain strand of feminist sociolinguistics, men
should be/secretly are pleased to be called "pricks" (and "dicks"),
especially by women, but women are rightly enraged to be called "cunts,"
especially by men.

The only practical solution to these glaring and unsupportable asymmetries
is a thorough overhaul of the language. You know, chopping things out and
retrofitting and so on.

I have occasionally heard an enraged woman call another both "bitch" and
"son of a bitch." But if "son of a bitch" flies (in a way that "prick"
doesn't), what about "mofo"?

 JL

On Sun, Jun 14, 2015 at 12:26 PM, W Brewer <brewerwa at gmail.com> wrote:

> Poster:       W Brewer <brewerwa at GMAIL.COM>
> Subject:      Re: fines for saying "you guys" to mixed groups?
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> Rodney Dangerfield: <<When I drink, I don't know what I'm doin'. I was
> loaded one night, I went into a gay bar. Whew, it was ridiculous. It was
> fifteen guys for every guy.>>
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