[Ads-l] Not entirely the listserve's fault [Was: Saying: With great power comes great responsibility (Request help with French)]

ADSGarson O'Toole adsgarsonotoole at GMAIL.COM
Sat Jun 27 04:18:39 UTC 2015


Joel Berson wrote:
> Well, its not entirely the listserve's fault, or perhaps even not
> at all the listserve's fault. I received the accents well rendered.

Thanks for your informative response, Joel. Perhaps I owe an apology
to the mailing list software. The situation is confusing (to me). I
use gmail, and a copy of the message that I sent was retained in the
"Sent Mail" folder. That copy is perfectly readable; however, the copy
that was emailed back to me from the mail gateway is not readable.

Returning to a lexicographical topic, I see that "bit-rot" is in
Wikitonary and Wikipedia. Maybe other dictionaries will
add it. (OED has Bitcoin as a draft addition dated
December 2014.)

https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/bit_rot
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bit_rot

Garson

On Thu, Jun 25, 2015 at 7:12 PM, Joel Berson <berson at att.net> wrote:
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> Well, its not entirely the listserve's fault, or perhaps even not at all th=
> e listserve's fault.=C2=A0 I received the accents well rendered.
>
> Joel
>       From: ADSGarson O'Toole <adsgarsonotoole at GMAIL.COM>
>  To: ADS-L at LISTSERV.UGA.EDU=20
>  Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2015 2:32 PM
>  Subject: Re: [ADS-L] Saying: With great power comes great responsibility (=
> Request help with French)
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> I apologize. The last message I sent was difficult to read because the
> primitive mailing list software is unable to handle characters
> properly.
>
> Here is a short link to the key passage I was hoping someone might
> translate. Below is a version without diacritical marks.
>
> http://bit.ly/1TPpw79
>
> [Begin excerpt]
> Les Representans du peuple se rendront a leur destination, investis de
> la plus hante confiance et de pouvoirs illimites. Ils vont deployer un
> grand caractere. Ils doivent envisager qu'une grande responsabilite
> est la suite inseparable d'un grand pouvoir. Ce sera a leur energie, a
> leur courage, et sur-tout a leur prudence, qu'ils devront leur succes
> et leur gloire.
> [End excerpt]
>
> Garson
>
> On Thu, Jun 25, 2015 at 2:21 PM, ADSGarson O'Toole
> <adsgarsonotoole at gmail.com> wrote:
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>> Your help is requested to translate a passage (given further below)
>> from French to English.
>>
>> A recent Supreme Court decision penned by Justice Kagan referred to a
>> quotation in a 1962 comic book featuring Spiderman. Fred has an entry
>> for the quotation in the Yale Book of Quotations: "with great power
>> there must also come--great responsibility". Fred also noted the
>> existence of an earlier citation with a matching expression:
>>
>> [Begin excerpt]
>> =3DE2=3D80=3D98"Wherever there is great power . . . there is great respon=
> sibility=3D
>> =3DE2=3D80=3D99=3DE2=3D80=3D99
>> appeared much earlier in John Cumming, Voices of the Dead (1854).
>> [End excerpt]
>>
>> I have been asked about this quotation because it has also been
>> attributed to Voltaire. At this time the linkage to Voltaire is
>> unsupported. Nevertheless, I have attempted to find something
>> pertinent in French.
>>
>> Below is a citation from the time of the French Revolution that may be
>> relevant. Would someone please translate the passage below?
>>
>> [ref] 1793 May, Title: Collection G=3DC3=3DA9n=3DC3=3DA9rale des D=3DC3=
> =3DA9crets Rendu=3D
>> s par la
>> Convention Nationale, Date: May 8, 1793 (Du 8 Mai 1793), Quote Page
>> 72, Publisher: Chez Baudouin, Imprimeur de la Convention Nationale. A
>> Paris. (Google Books Full View) link [/ref]
>>
>> [Begin excerpt]
>> Les Repr=3DC3=3DA9sentans du peuple se rendront =3DC3=3DA0 leur destinati=
> on, invest=3D
>> is de
>> la plus hante confiance et de pouvoirs illimit=3DC3=3DA9s. Ils vont d=3DC=
> 3=3DA9ploy=3D
>> er un
>> grand caract=3DC3=3DA8re. Ils doivent envisager qu'une grande responsabil=
> it=3DC3=3D
>> =3DA9
>> est la suite ins=3DC3=3DA9parable d'un grand pouvoir. Ce sera =3DC3=3DA0 =
> leur =3DC3=3D
>> =3DA9nergie, =3DC3=3DA0
>> leur courage, et sur-tout =3DC3=3DA0 leur prudence, qu'ils devront leur s=
> ucc=3DC3=3D
>> =3DA8s
>> et leur gloire.
>> [End excerpt]
>>
>> Thanks for any help you can provide,
>> Garson
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