[Ads-l] indulgent = 'self-indulgent'

Jonathan Lighter wuxxmupp2000 at GMAIL.COM
Thu Mar 12 14:13:19 UTC 2015


Larry, you just read too much old stuff.  We of the future call that
indulgent. I bet you don't even subscribe to _People_, much less _Us_.

BTW, ads have long been calling pies, cakes, IHOP confections, "diet
shakes," etc., "indulgent."  It means 'rich and delicious,' as I may have
pointed out some years ago.

JL

On Thu, Mar 12, 2015 at 10:05 AM, Laurence Horn <laurence.horn at yale.edu>
wrote:

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> I'm still more used to seeing "self-indulgent" for this meaning (when =
> the writer doesn't just mean 'permissive, lazily lenient').   And =
> remember, you can't spell "self-indulgent" without "selfi".
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> LH
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> > On Mar 12, 2015, at 9:29 AM, Jonathan Lighter <wuxxmupp2000 at GMAIL.COM> =
> wrote:
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> > OED marks this "Obs.," with its final cite from 1705.
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> > It has become so common in recent decades that it has effectively =
> crowded
> > out "self-indulgent" in the popular media.
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> > A modern ex.:
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> > 1979 Jon Silkin _Penguin Book of First World War Poetry_ (N.Y.: =
> Penguin)
> > 15: If [compassion in war poetry, like Whitman's] doesn't try to do =
> away
> > with, or limit, the war that causes the suffering, it's indulgent.
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> > JL
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