[Ads-l] "You live in shit!"

Dan Goncharoff thegonch at GMAIL.COM
Wed May 20 15:16:27 UTC 2015


I was thinking it was an extreme version of "you step in shit and come out
blooming like a rose".

DanG

On Wed, May 20, 2015 at 9:49 AM, Jonathan Lighter <wuxxmupp2000 at gmail.com>
wrote:

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> New to me.
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> Poss. cf. "Happy as a pig in shit."
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> JL
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> On Tue, May 19, 2015 at 9:45 PM, Wilson Gray <hwgray at gmail.com> wrote:
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> > Some years ago, I mentioned this bit of GI slang, of which there was no
> > trace, at the time, except in my memory and in those of the few Army
> > buddies with whom I'm still in contact, a half-century later. Now, there
> > are 24,621 raw G-hits, Web and Books combined.
> >
> > And they are all appear to be used as expected: as insults.
> >
> > In the Army, the phrase meant,
> >
> > "Wow! You are really *lucky*!" "Everything is breaking your way!" "How in
> > hell are *you* so fortunate?!" "I really *envy* you your good fortune!"
> > Etc.
> >
> > It was a friendly expression of envy that something had gone right -
> > seemingly out of nowhere - for someone else, as when the someone somehow
> > forgot to put on his insignia before an inspection, only to have it
> happen
> > that the inspection was carried out by a Navy officer, who didn't notice
> > anything wrong with an Army uniform.
> >
> > As for the semantic development, fifty years of pondering it has given me
> > no clue.
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> > -Wilson
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> > All say, "How hard it is that we have to die!"---a strange complaint to
> > come from the mouths of people who have had to live.
> > -Mark Twain
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