[Ads-l] Pan = pansexual

Jonathan Lighter wuxxmupp2000 at GMAIL.COM
Sat May 30 12:42:03 UTC 2015


In my high-school days in the early '60s, "queer" (n.), like "fag" and
"faggot," was frequently used in insulting boyish banter. But "homo" (n.)
was a serious accusation, presumably because no fudging about the meaning
was even conceivable.

JL

On Fri, May 29, 2015 at 10:47 PM, Laurence Horn <laurence.horn at yale.edu>
wrote:

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> Then there's the usual difference between adjectives and nouns.  "A =
> homo", I venture to speculate, was always pejorative, even in "Are you a =
> homo?" On the other hand, "homo or hetero" below could even be a prefix: =
>  "Are you homo- or hetero- ?", with the "sexual" implicit.  Not =
> particularly pejorative in that case, I'd agree.  But the adjectival use =
> of "homo" is relatively rare.
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> LH
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> > On May 29, 2015, at 10:33 PM, Ben Zimmer <bgzimmer at GMAIL.COM> wrote:
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> > On Fri, May 29, 2015 at 8:23 PM, Wilson Gray wrote:
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> >> On Fri, May 29, 2015 at 5:46 PM, Ben Zimmer wrote:
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> >>> the now-offensive "homo".
> >>=20
> >> When was it inoffensive? Was its use different from that of "lezzie"?
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> > I haven't looked too deeply into this, but my impression is that
> > "homo" could once be used as a not-necessarily-pejorative alternative
> > to "hetero". One early (reported) example occurs in _My Father and
> > Myself_, the memoir of J.R. Ackerley (1896-1967), in which he recalls
> > a conversation with a Swiss friend named Arnold Lunn in 1918:
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> > "Almost the first mischievous question he shot at me was 'Are you homo
> > or hetero?' I had never heard either term before; they were explained
> > and there seemed only one answer."
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> > Then again, Ackerley describes Lunn as "a mocking and amusing fellow"
> > (who was hetero), so perhaps it was derogatory even then.
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> > --bgz
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