[Ads-l] "joyride"

George Thompson george.thompson at NYU.EDU
Sun Nov 1 16:55:00 UTC 2015


I hadn't thought of "joy ride" as being necessarily connected with stealing
(temporarily) a car.  Now that I do think of it, I suppose that is the
case.  One wouldn't take a "joy ride" in one's own car, then.  And a "jazz
ride" wouldn't be synonymous with "joy ride".

GAT

On Sat, Oct 31, 2015 at 4:57 PM, Laurence Horn <laurence.horn at yale.edu>
wrote:

>
> > On Oct 31, 2015, at 4:23 PM, George Thompson <george.thompson at nyu.edu>
> wrote:
> >
> > I'm thinking that a joy ride or jazz ride ends on the same airfield it
> left
> > from, as opposed to providing transportation to a destination.
>
>
> Are those two possibilities exclusive?  I've always thought that at least
> on the ground joyrides allow for the possibility of abandoning the vehicle
> in some field or whatever--the key is that it's distinguished from car
> theft by virtue of the intent and the final result--the "borrowers" neither
> plan on keeping the car nor do so, but they don't need to return it to its
> starting point.  Maybe it's different for planes.
>
> Here's the OED's gloss; no mention of landing site in either case:
> 'A pleasure trip in a motor car, aeroplane, etc., often without the
> permission of the owner of the vehicle.'
>
> LH
>
> >  Therefore
> > it is foolishness; but I'll accept foolish and exciting.
> >
> > GAT
> >
> > On Sat, Oct 31, 2015 at 7:44 AM, Jonathan Lighter <
> wuxxmupp2000 at gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> Maybe not "nonsensical" but "exciting."
> >>
> >> Cf. "joyride" itself.
> >>
> >> JL
> >>
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> >>> Subject: Re: Interesting early use of 'jazz' far away from music
> >>> From: Jonathan Lighter <wuxxmupp2000 at gmail.com>
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> >>> Maybe not "nonsensical" but "exciting."
> >>>
> >>> Consider "joyride" itself.
> >>>
> >>> JL
> >>>
> >>> On Fri, Oct 30, 2015 at 9:43 PM, George Thompson <
> >> george.thompson at nyu.edu>
> >>> wrote:
> >>>
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> >>>> Sender:       American Dialect Society <ADS-L at LISTSERV.UGA.EDU>
> >>>> Poster:       George Thompson <george.thompson at NYU.EDU>
> >>>> Subject:      Re: Interesting early use of 'jazz' far away from music
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>
> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >>>>
> >>>> This fits with the sense of the first two appearances of "jazz" -- Ben
> >>>> Henderson's "jazz curve" and the statement that the idea that a young
> >>>> ballplayer isn't talented is "all to the jazz" -- the sense of
> >> nonsense,
> >>>> foolishness, or such.  Henderson's jazz curve was ridiculous: it
> >> wobbled;
> >>>> the misunderestimation of the young player is nonsense; and a jazz
> trip
> >>> in
> >>>> an airplane without purpose or destination is foolish.
> >>>>
> >>>> All but one of the rest of the citations from 1914 (as I recall) show
> >> the
> >>>> other sense: energy or enthusiasm; which is the sense that links to
> >>> "jazz"
> >>>> in music.
> >>>>
> >>>> GAT
> >>>>
> >>>> On Fri, Oct 30, 2015 at 3:32 PM, Geoffrey Steven Nathan <
> >>>> geoffnathan at wayne.edu> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> I subscribe to an aviation trade journal (Aviation Week) which is
> >>> having
> >>>> a
> >>>>> feature on 100 years of 'airline technology'. Here's a quote from an
> >>>>> article:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On a bright New Year's Day morning in 1914, an enthusiastic crowd
> >> that
> >>>> had
> >>>>> gathered at the yacht basin in St. Petersburg, Florida, cheered with
> >>>>> delight as a fragile-looking Benoist XIV floatplane left the water
> >> and
> >>>>> pointed its blunt nose in the direction of nearby Tampa. Squeezed
> >> into
> >>>> the
> >>>>> tiny cockpit were pioneer aviator Tony Jannus and Abe Pheil, a former
> >>> St.
> >>>>> Petersburg mayor who had bid $400 to become the first fare-paying
> >>>> passenger
> >>>>> on the world's first scheduled, fixed-wing airline flight. Percival
> >>>>> Fansler, the local businessman behind the St.
> >>>
> >>> ----- Message truncated -----
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >>
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> truth."
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> >
> >
> > --
> > George A. Thompson
> > The Guy Who Still Looks Stuff Up in Books.
> > Author of A Documentary History of "The African Theatre", Northwestern
> > Univ. Pr., 1998..
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-- 
George A. Thompson
The Guy Who Still Looks Stuff Up in Books.
Author of A Documentary History of "The African Theatre", Northwestern
Univ. Pr., 1998..

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